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Exporting organised crime will not solve your problems. Especially regarding the EU. http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15932840,00.html http://www.dw.de/dw/articl

• Muzza 14y ago
  I am 100% confident that deporting all foreign beggars in Sweden will solve the problem of foreign beggars in Sweden. I don't really care if this doesn't get to the "bottom of the problem" or whatever. I (or the Swedish people in general) simply cannot be held responsible for the suffering of the entire fucking world. Your links don't make any sense. The DDR used slave labor? Ingvar Kamprad uses various tax avoidance schemes? Did you choose them simply because they are related to Sweden?
  • m__ 14y ago
    What a brilliant "solution": if somebody does something you are not happy with... just deport them!
    • Muzza 14y ago
      Certainly. Foreign criminals are deported all the time.
  • Create 14y ago
    3 Free movement of capital 4 Free movement of services 5 Free movement of people 5.1 Free movement of workers 5.2 Free movement for the non-economically active 5.3 The Schengen Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms_%28European_Union%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms_%28European_Unio... I also invite you to read the labels of ie. the plying wooden chairs and crude mugs from which all those world-mesmerising profits arise.
    • Muzza 14y ago
      What is your point? Do you think I'm somehow ignorant of what the EU means? I know about the free movement of people - I reject it since it has negative consequences for me! For some reason you are unwilling to come right out and simply say what you think about IKEA, thus leaving me to read your mind. Presumably your argument goes something like this: "Ingvar Kamprad is Swedish, Ingvar Kamprad used forced labor in the GDR, therefore all Swedish people must pay for these sins by putting up with foreign beggars on their streets".
      • Create 14y ago
        Your presumption is wrong. I gave examples of free movements of products, services and capital. If you are ready to accept these freedoms, you should also accept the other items packaged in this very same deal: the free movement of people. The Swiss also like to cherry pick the good stuff from the Europe, just like everybody. Not taking responsibility of the economic externalities, as the euphemism goes, is not sustainable. Economically speaking of the West, the short-term advantages of this short-sightedness are over.
        • Muzza 14y ago
          > If you are ready to accept these freedoms Who says I am? I am not Ingvar Kamprad.
          • photon137 14y ago
            Democracy and freedom are double-edged swords by their very nature.You are perfectly entitled as an individual to reject those freedoms. I think you as an individual then should be slapped with a visa requirement to visit all other nations in Europe. Then you'll have fun strutting around with your papers to all the different embassies - which I guess you'd certainly prefer than having foreign beggars around. Or you could stay in Sweden forever if you don't even want to do that. We certainly wouldn't mind.
  • hej 14y ago
    You (and I) are responsible if you are enjoying your privileges while – through no fault of their own - others suffer. Sweden and the west got rich through luck and exploitation. You are privileged. You are lucky. Recognize that and act on it.
    • Muzza 14y ago
      I am certainly not responsible in any way for (for instance) Romania's poverty. There was this guy called Ceaușescu; he had a little bit to do with it.
      • mpusr 14y ago
        that may be so, but the actual beggars are not at fault, and this is important. simply because someone was not born within the borders of your country does not make them any less human. This is the point. A swedish life is worth no more or less than a romanian one. Your nationalist attitude is baseless. You happen to be born in sweden, they happen to be born in romania. If the tables were turned I'm sure you wouldn't think too highly of people with your opinion.
        • Muzza 14y ago
          > that may be so, but the actual beggars are not at fault, and this is important. simply because someone was not born within the borders of your country does not make them any less human. I have never denied anyone their humanity, only insisted that I shouldn't have to support them. > A swedish life is worth no more or less than a romanian one. If we are all equal, why do the left insist that a Romanian arriving in Sweden should have more entitlements than a Swedish citizen?
        • v0cab 14y ago
          The tables are turned. Someone born in Western Europe might well lead a life of poverty while a Japanese or South Korean person will have a great education, get a job straight out of university, and not want for material needs. Will South Korea or Japan donate their money to help such people, or allow them immigrate to their safe countries? They will not. Do you think the Chinese will?
  • willvarfar 14y ago
    so where do you stand on Brevik, both motive and method?
    • Muzza 14y ago
      The answer is mu ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28negative%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28negative%29 ). There is no link between mass murder and the deportation of criminals; my stance on Breivik is irrelevant.
      • willvarfar 14y ago
        motive vs method.