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Not vouching for him, but Trump did alert the Germans about the risk of over relying on Russian energy [1]. He wanted Europe to become independent of Putin year

Not vouching for him, but Trump did alert the Germans about the risk of over relying on Russian energy [1]. He wanted Europe to become independent of Putin years before this crisis. He did not say these things in the most appropriate way, like everything he says, but it didn't seem like he wanted to weaken Europe before Russia, quite the opposite. [1] https://youtu.be/liGZGGQTYQk?si=Rafuq8eoKc84vpG1 https://youtu.be/liGZGGQTYQk?si=Rafuq8eoKc84vpG1

KingOfCoders 3y ago
He wanted to sell US LNG. Not more and not less. Russia delivered gas to Western Europe for 60 years, the US could not guarantee LNG deliveries for 2 years [0] Hopefully the traffic through the Panama canal goes down so Europe can still get US LNG that would otherwise end up in Asia. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-leaves-eu-industry-odds-over-energy-security-2024-02-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-...
- rmbyrro 3y ago
  And now US LNG exports to Germany are booming: ~30x (!!!) from 2022 to 2023 [1]. Seems like there wasn't a better other option anyway, was there? Before invading Ukraine, Putin was arguably banking on the fact that he had Europe on his hands, not only for economic activity, but for survival during winter. He clearly didn't expect the way Europe responded. Maybe the invasion wouldn't have happened in the first place if Europe would have already demonstrated strength and energy independence in the first place? [1] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/NG_MOVE_POE2_DCU_NUS-NGM_A.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/NG_MOVE_POE2_DCU_NUS-NGM_A.htm
jasonvorhe 3y ago
It has been quite common knowledge that one of the US' biggest fears has always been a strong German industry paired with cheap Russian energy. It's not like Trump or anyone else had to raise some kind of alert here. The dependency was quite obvious and a choice by Germany. Unfortunately they're nothing but a vassal NATO outpost by now so the deindustrialization is probably going to continue until some far right party takes over.
- rmbyrro 3y ago
  Really. US' *biggest* fear is a strong Germany. Really.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

He wanted to sell US LNG. Not more and not less. Russia delivered gas to Western Europe for 60 years, the US could not guarantee LNG deliveries for 2 years [0] Hopefully the traffic through the Panama canal goes down so Europe can still get US LNG that would otherwise end up in Asia. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-leaves-eu-industry-odds-over-energy-security-2024-02-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-...

rmbyrro 3y ago
And now US LNG exports to Germany are booming: ~30x (!!!) from 2022 to 2023 [1]. Seems like there wasn't a better other option anyway, was there? Before invading Ukraine, Putin was arguably banking on the fact that he had Europe on his hands, not only for economic activity, but for survival during winter. He clearly didn't expect the way Europe responded. Maybe the invasion wouldn't have happened in the first place if Europe would have already demonstrated strength and energy independence in the first place? [1] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/NG_MOVE_POE2_DCU_NUS-NGM_A.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/NG_MOVE_POE2_DCU_NUS-NGM_A.htm

jasonvorhe 3y ago

It has been quite common knowledge that one of the US' biggest fears has always been a strong German industry paired with cheap Russian energy. It's not like Trump or anyone else had to raise some kind of alert here. The dependency was quite obvious and a choice by Germany. Unfortunately they're nothing but a vassal NATO outpost by now so the deindustrialization is probably going to continue until some far right party takes over.

rmbyrro 3y ago
Really. US' *biggest* fear is a strong Germany. Really.