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I do wonder how much of this is data driven vs a combination of fear mongering by the usual suspects and reacting to fear mongering, and thus causing its own fe

by jghn 3y ago

I do wonder how much of this is data driven vs a combination of fear mongering by the usual suspects and reacting to fear mongering, and thus causing its own fear issues. Granted homicide isn't the only violent crime in the world but there were the headlines a week or so ago that homicide rates were far higher in the states complaining about NYC's crime than NYC has. Is it really *that* dangerous?

yunwal 3y ago
No, NYC is far, far safer than other large US cities. It’s the subject of attention because NYC is always the subject of attention.
tekla 3y ago
No. NYC crime is lower than almost every major city. It's always fun when finding out someone who lives in a rural area has a higher per capita crime rate than NYC while they complain about how NYC is a crime shithole.
- psunavy03 3y ago
  Per capita crime will still be more densely concentrated in areas of higher population density. So yes, NYC could have a lower crime rate than a rural area by number of people, but still have it be much more "in your face" because all those crimes are happening in a smaller geographical footprint. And crime being "in your face" as opposed to happening where you don't notice it is what makes people think "wow, this is a shithole."
anon291 3y ago
The homicide rate in cities needs to be lower than primarily rural or suburban or small city states. This is because cities require citizens to be more trusting of one another due to close proximity. It takes a much lower crime rate to make a city feel unsafe compared to a less populated area. I don't understand why this concept is still hard to grasp. If you lived in a low trust high crime society would you rather live in a tenement building or have your own acreage and gun? That being said, yes Nyc is safer than many cities thanks to Giulianis continued policies that make new York city policing closer to a right wing fever dream than many would like to admit.

by jghn 3y ago

yunwal 3y ago

No, NYC is far, far safer than other large US cities. It’s the subject of attention because NYC is always the subject of attention.

tekla 3y ago

No. NYC crime is lower than almost every major city. It's always fun when finding out someone who lives in a rural area has a higher per capita crime rate than NYC while they complain about how NYC is a crime shithole.

psunavy03 3y ago
Per capita crime will still be more densely concentrated in areas of higher population density. So yes, NYC could have a lower crime rate than a rural area by number of people, but still have it be much more "in your face" because all those crimes are happening in a smaller geographical footprint. And crime being "in your face" as opposed to happening where you don't notice it is what makes people think "wow, this is a shithole."

anon291 3y ago

The homicide rate in cities needs to be lower than primarily rural or suburban or small city states. This is because cities require citizens to be more trusting of one another due to close proximity. It takes a much lower crime rate to make a city feel unsafe compared to a less populated area. I don't understand why this concept is still hard to grasp. If you lived in a low trust high crime society would you rather live in a tenement building or have your own acreage and gun? That being said, yes Nyc is safer than many cities thanks to Giulianis continued policies that make new York city policing closer to a right wing fever dream than many would like to admit.