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There are smartphones designed in europe. Isn't Fairphone a dutch company? The greenphone was from Norway. Gigaset is German. The Shift smartphones too. Wiko is

There are smartphones designed in europe. Isn't Fairphone a dutch company? The greenphone was from Norway. Gigaset is German. The Shift smartphones too. Wiko is french and chinese.

rekoil 3y ago
Nokia - Finnish Ericsson - Swedish They are no longer relevant I guess, but modern smartphones build on their original success, especially Ericssons infrastructure dominance. None of Apples Apple Silicon products would exist without Netherlands ASML.
roenxi 3y ago
Going off some website [0]; unless I've been badly mislead, effectively nobody in Europe wants them. Looks like Nokia is leading the pack of desirable phones with nearly 1 person in 100 (not really that good, but close enough) thinking it is the phone for them. Or it would be if Nokia's mobile phone division hadn't been bought out by the Americans. So technically even that is a US brand these days. Seems fair to count that as European though, presumably they still have offices in the EU. > Wiko is french and chinese. Well they've solved half the problems that EU companies face. [0] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/europe-smartphone-market-q3-2021/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/europe-smartph...
- flumpcakes 3y ago
  Perhaps because Google and Apple have been acting as monopolies and made all other products undesirable? The US benefits from the EU greatly, but whenever the EU enforces laws to protect it's citizens you always hear people from the US complain about "socialist" whiners who can't compete with the US. If the US had domestic laws that actually helped and protected it's citizenry, they'd probably look like the EU's laws.
  - roenxi 3y ago
    Then the US wouldn't be involved in the smartphone market either, the EU and the US would both be trying to counter the overwhelming dominance of Asian smartphones. If the US adopted the same regulations, they'd get the same outcome.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  There are smaller companies but that is not really relevant to the original comment.

There are smartphones designed in europe. Isn't Fairphone a dutch company? The greenphone was from Norway. Gigaset is German. The Shift smartphones too. Wiko is french and chinese.

rekoil 3y ago

Nokia - Finnish Ericsson - Swedish They are no longer relevant I guess, but modern smartphones build on their original success, especially Ericssons infrastructure dominance. None of Apples Apple Silicon products would exist without Netherlands ASML.

roenxi 3y ago

Going off some website [0]; unless I've been badly mislead, effectively nobody in Europe wants them. Looks like Nokia is leading the pack of desirable phones with nearly 1 person in 100 (not really that good, but close enough) thinking it is the phone for them. Or it would be if Nokia's mobile phone division hadn't been bought out by the Americans. So technically even that is a US brand these days. Seems fair to count that as European though, presumably they still have offices in the EU. > Wiko is french and chinese. Well they've solved half the problems that EU companies face. [0] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/europe-smartphone-market-q3-2021/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/europe-smartph...

flumpcakes 3y ago
Perhaps because Google and Apple have been acting as monopolies and made all other products undesirable? The US benefits from the EU greatly, but whenever the EU enforces laws to protect it's citizens you always hear people from the US complain about "socialist" whiners who can't compete with the US. If the US had domestic laws that actually helped and protected it's citizenry, they'd probably look like the EU's laws.
- roenxi 3y ago
  Then the US wouldn't be involved in the smartphone market either, the EU and the US would both be trying to counter the overwhelming dominance of Asian smartphones. If the US adopted the same regulations, they'd get the same outcome.
prmoustache 3y ago
There are smaller companies but that is not really relevant to the original comment.