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It's there a law that states that whatever values an organisation puts in its name are the opposite of that organizations actual values? Seems like there shoul

It's there a law that states that whatever values an organisation puts in its name are the opposite of that organizations actual values? Seems like there should be, but I haven't heard of it. If there isn't I'm coining "Amarants Law" in this post. Open-AI being closed is a decent example of this law. A far better example is any nation with the word "democratic" in its name.

hef19898 3y ago
There is the whole legal labyrinth around for-profits being owned by non-profits. Whether or not OpenAI adhered to tjose, I cannot say.
aamargulies 3y ago
‘United’ States?
- notahacker 3y ago
  and 'United' Kingdom :)
  - agmater 3y ago
    United Airlines? But The Honest Company is the funniest one: > Jessica Alba's The Honest Co. has submitted a settlement offer in NY for a second false marketing lawsuit stemming from the brand having sold products labeled as all natural when in fact they were not. https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Honest-co-proposes-7-35m-settlement-in-class-action-for-false-marketing,846212.html https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Honest-co-proposes-7-35m-...
Gravityloss 3y ago
Or Ministry of Love and others in 1984: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-...
threeseed 3y ago
a) Business names are never supposed to be taken literally. Apple is not a fruit company. b) First amendment issues likely arise. c) The word open has multiple definitions. It can just mean we are going to be open about certain aspects of our research. It doesn't mean open source or open models.
- amarant 3y ago
  I didn't mean law as in constitution, but rather law as in Betteridge's or Moore's or Murphy's. Also,"Apple" isn't really a value, though I agree they are yummy!
WhyNotHugo 3y ago
The "ministry of war" renaming itself to "department of defence" is a classic example.
feverzsj 3y ago
Basically, every communist country that puts "Democratic", "People's" and "Republic" in its name.
- meowface 3y ago
  And a companion law: the more they string together, the more of an antithesis it is.
blowski 3y ago
I've heard it referred to as "nominative dissonance".
- agmater 3y ago
  Semantic Diffusion is what this author uses: https://martinfowler.com/bliki/SemanticDiffusion.html https://martinfowler.com/bliki/SemanticDiffusion.html (2006) > Semantic diffusion occurs when you have a word that is coined by a person or group, often with a pretty good definition, but then gets spread through the wider community in a way that weakens that definition.
jhanschoo 3y ago
https://openai.com/our-structure https://openai.com/our-structure The ownership of the nonprofit OpenAI, Inc. is private, I think. In any case, generally speaking, the board of directors are fiduciarily bound to execute the company's constitution, and the constitution stipulates how the board is appointed or elected. Generally speaking non-profits are self-governing in this manner with respect to their mission.

hef19898 3y ago

There is the whole legal labyrinth around for-profits being owned by non-profits. Whether or not OpenAI adhered to tjose, I cannot say.

aamargulies 3y ago

‘United’ States?

notahacker 3y ago
and 'United' Kingdom :)
- agmater 3y ago
  United Airlines? But The Honest Company is the funniest one: > Jessica Alba's The Honest Co. has submitted a settlement offer in NY for a second false marketing lawsuit stemming from the brand having sold products labeled as all natural when in fact they were not. https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Honest-co-proposes-7-35m-settlement-in-class-action-for-false-marketing,846212.html https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Honest-co-proposes-7-35m-...

Gravityloss 3y ago

Or Ministry of Love and others in 1984: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-...

threeseed 3y ago

a) Business names are never supposed to be taken literally. Apple is not a fruit company. b) First amendment issues likely arise. c) The word open has multiple definitions. It can just mean we are going to be open about certain aspects of our research. It doesn't mean open source or open models.

amarant 3y ago
I didn't mean law as in constitution, but rather law as in Betteridge's or Moore's or Murphy's. Also,"Apple" isn't really a value, though I agree they are yummy!

WhyNotHugo 3y ago

The "ministry of war" renaming itself to "department of defence" is a classic example.

feverzsj 3y ago

Basically, every communist country that puts "Democratic", "People's" and "Republic" in its name.

meowface 3y ago
And a companion law: the more they string together, the more of an antithesis it is.

blowski 3y ago

I've heard it referred to as "nominative dissonance".

agmater 3y ago
Semantic Diffusion is what this author uses: https://martinfowler.com/bliki/SemanticDiffusion.html https://martinfowler.com/bliki/SemanticDiffusion.html (2006) > Semantic diffusion occurs when you have a word that is coined by a person or group, often with a pretty good definition, but then gets spread through the wider community in a way that weakens that definition.

jhanschoo 3y ago

https://openai.com/our-structure https://openai.com/our-structure The ownership of the nonprofit OpenAI, Inc. is private, I think. In any case, generally speaking, the board of directors are fiduciarily bound to execute the company's constitution, and the constitution stipulates how the board is appointed or elected. Generally speaking non-profits are self-governing in this manner with respect to their mission.