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If it was just me then yeah. Thankfully enough people have made it for Fedora to be convinced it's a good idea. Other distros will soon follow (as always) and

If it was just me then yeah. Thankfully enough people have made it for Fedora to be convinced it's a good idea. Other distros will soon follow (as always) and X11 will wither. Finally.

bayindirh 3y ago
I'm member of other communities and at least one person is talking about something not working on Wayland, but working on X11, so we still have ~2-3 (up to 5) years. X11 will not wither overnight. There are still things which are very dependent on X11. Remote connections comes to my mind, for example. Lastly, not all distributions are followers. Debian (testing at least), installs Wayland by default, but not enables it. It's installed on my system for a couple of years now.
- petepete 3y ago
  > I'm member of other communities and at least one person is talking about something not working on Wayland, but working on X11, so we still have ~2-3 (up to 5) years. Thankfully I don't have to, I want shiny new software thanks. > Remote connections comes to my mind, for example. Nobody uses them any more.
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    > Thankfully I don't have to, I want shiny new software thanks. That's a choice. I prefer uptime more, for example. I use boring technology to create fun things. > Nobody uses them any more. You should follow X2Go users' & OpenOnDemand mailing lists. They're very heavily used by some significant groups (e.g. scientists).
  - toyg 3y ago
    Remote connections are dead, Netcraft confirms.
    - bayindirh 3y ago
      They lied to you.
      - toyg 3y ago
        I fear my slashdot joke was not appreciated. Infamously, a post on Slashdot once stated (probably 20 years ago) "OpenBSD is dead, Netcraft confirms" - Netcraft's methods were then widely ridiculed, and obviously OpenBSD continues to be very much alive to this day.
        bayindirh 3y ago
        I remember reading that, but failed to make the connection (hah!). Probably a bit too tired from physical sysadmin work.
  - NoGravitas 3y ago
    You can run remote applications with Wayland now: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/getting_started_with_the_gnome_desktop_environment/remotely-accessing-an-individual-application-wayland_getting-started-with-the-gnome-desktop-environment https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp... There is also a VNC server for fullscreen sessions (only supports wlroots compositors for now): https://github.com/any1/wayvnc https://github.com/any1/wayvnc

If it was just me then yeah. Thankfully enough people have made it for Fedora to be convinced it's a good idea. Other distros will soon follow (as always) and X11 will wither. Finally.

bayindirh 3y ago

I'm member of other communities and at least one person is talking about something not working on Wayland, but working on X11, so we still have ~2-3 (up to 5) years. X11 will not wither overnight. There are still things which are very dependent on X11. Remote connections comes to my mind, for example. Lastly, not all distributions are followers. Debian (testing at least), installs Wayland by default, but not enables it. It's installed on my system for a couple of years now.

petepete 3y ago
> I'm member of other communities and at least one person is talking about something not working on Wayland, but working on X11, so we still have ~2-3 (up to 5) years. Thankfully I don't have to, I want shiny new software thanks. > Remote connections comes to my mind, for example. Nobody uses them any more.
- bayindirh 3y ago
  > Thankfully I don't have to, I want shiny new software thanks. That's a choice. I prefer uptime more, for example. I use boring technology to create fun things. > Nobody uses them any more. You should follow X2Go users' & OpenOnDemand mailing lists. They're very heavily used by some significant groups (e.g. scientists).
- toyg 3y ago
  Remote connections are dead, Netcraft confirms.
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    They lied to you.
    - toyg 3y ago
      I fear my slashdot joke was not appreciated. Infamously, a post on Slashdot once stated (probably 20 years ago) "OpenBSD is dead, Netcraft confirms" - Netcraft's methods were then widely ridiculed, and obviously OpenBSD continues to be very much alive to this day.
      - bayindirh 3y ago
        I remember reading that, but failed to make the connection (hah!). Probably a bit too tired from physical sysadmin work.
- NoGravitas 3y ago
  You can run remote applications with Wayland now: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/getting_started_with_the_gnome_desktop_environment/remotely-accessing-an-individual-application-wayland_getting-started-with-the-gnome-desktop-environment https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp... There is also a VNC server for fullscreen sessions (only supports wlroots compositors for now): https://github.com/any1/wayvnc https://github.com/any1/wayvnc