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This could actually be pretty interesting, don’t RED have a patent on compressed raw video? I’m amazed that this patent is allowed but I guess we’ll see Nikon c
by andy_ppp 3y ago
This could actually be pretty interesting, don’t RED have a patent on compressed raw video? I’m amazed that this patent is allowed but I guess we’ll see Nikon cameras with more advanced video features and probably increased difficulty offering ProRes compressed raw for other manufacturers. I hate software patents so much.
- dagmx 3y agoYeah I think this will be huge for in-body RAW. I think Nikon is more likely to play patent licensing than REzd and we’ll see more ProRes RAW offerings going forward.
- kristofferR 3y agoYeah, RED tried to sue Nikon over it: https://petapixel.com/2023/04/27/reds-lawsuit-against-nikon-dismissed-z9-gets-to-keep-compressed-raw/ https://petapixel.com/2023/04/27/reds-lawsuit-against-nikon-...
- royjacobs 3y agoI believe so. Although RED was always being super mysterious and hype-y about it their RedCODE codec is ultimately just JPEG2000 so hopefully Nikon can relax this situation somewhat, which would be a benefit to all manufacturers.
- dharma1 3y agoDoubtful Nikon will relax it, just use it as a cash cow to get licensing revenue (like Red has) or as a competitive moat if they stop licensing it
- unwind 3y agoSo uh compressed raw would be just like a regular (loss-less) compressed image format, then? I thought the distinction between raw and non-raw was the use of lossy compression formats like JPEG.
- Espressosaurus 3y agoRAW is in linear light. Think spring-fresh, straight from the ADC. JPEG is in perceptual (~log) light. Out of the tap, terrible. It's also compressed. There are lossless and lossy compressed RAW formats.
- andybak 3y agoWow. The tap water isn't so good, where you are then?
- dagmx 3y agoRAW doesn’t denote compression, contrary to the name. In Still cameras, it usually means pre-debayering. On film cameras, it is a little more muddled but usually just means linear colourspace and higher bit depth.
- ryandamm 3y agoIn the case of red’s patents, the relevant issue for RAW compression is that the sensor values are compressed before de-bayering. It’s still lossy.