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Vertical? I doubt that, besides the literal meaning of the word. The first two months saw a YOY increase of new registrations in Germany but the share of EV did

by TomK32 3y ago

Vertical? I doubt that, besides the literal meaning of the word. The first two months saw a YOY increase of new registrations in Germany but the share of EV did drop. People are stubborn and love the ease of filling up a petrol tank. There were more Ferraris registered than BYD, though that might change. In November the Austrian state of Oberösterreich did announce BYD being the winning bid for buying a fleet of electric vehicles, but in January it was instead decided to lease BMW and VW cars instead. Sadly still cars instead of a stronger investment into public transport.

konschubert 3y ago
Germany is not the world.
- throwaway4good 3y ago
  They also abruptly cancelled their EV-subsidy which probably explains why the share of EVs is dropping.
  - konschubert 3y ago
    Yes, it’s likely a one time effect.
  - TomK32 3y ago
    Oberösterreich is not in Germany, but that contract was only for 35 cars.
    - radikalerludwig 3y ago
      > https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/germany-end-e-vehicle-subsidy-programme-2023-12-16/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/german...
Tade0 3y ago
I think it's not mentioned often enough how difficult it currently is to find enough bus/tram drivers having the demographics that Europe in general does. Cars will remain a mode of transportation simply because there is a huge professional driver shortage.
- TomK32 3y ago
  As long as the focus is wrong: Yes. In Germany the Pendlerpauschale (a tax rebate when you live a long distance for your workplace) costs the state 2.2 billion Euros a year, Diesel is still taxed less than petrol, another 8.5 billion and there's a tax privilege for company cars in a mix-private use which costs 1.8 billion. There's plenty of money to pay bus/tram driver more and build more lines. One thing most forget: Travel and transportation that is car-focused ignores those who can't yet/anymore operate a car. Better public transport allows you granny to travel easier as well as your children.
  - Tade0 3y ago
    I seem to have not make my point clear enough: You can't persuade people using money, at least not the kind of money cities can afford, as there are plenty of equally paid, less stressful and more interesting things to do with your life. In my city of 600k inhabitants there's a shortage of around 100 drivers - and that's just to service the lines that are currently operating. That's approximately 80k people not having their transportation needs met. The city is also cripplingly congested, but that's expected when you can't rely on public transportation. We need a solution that doesn't rely on demographics like they were in the 60s or even 80s.
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by TomK32 3y ago

konschubert 3y ago

Germany is not the world.

throwaway4good 3y ago
They also abruptly cancelled their EV-subsidy which probably explains why the share of EVs is dropping.
- konschubert 3y ago
  Yes, it’s likely a one time effect.
- TomK32 3y ago
  Oberösterreich is not in Germany, but that contract was only for 35 cars.
  - radikalerludwig 3y ago
    > https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/germany-end-e-vehicle-subsidy-programme-2023-12-16/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/german...

Tade0 3y ago

I think it's not mentioned often enough how difficult it currently is to find enough bus/tram drivers having the demographics that Europe in general does. Cars will remain a mode of transportation simply because there is a huge professional driver shortage.

TomK32 3y ago
As long as the focus is wrong: Yes. In Germany the Pendlerpauschale (a tax rebate when you live a long distance for your workplace) costs the state 2.2 billion Euros a year, Diesel is still taxed less than petrol, another 8.5 billion and there's a tax privilege for company cars in a mix-private use which costs 1.8 billion. There's plenty of money to pay bus/tram driver more and build more lines. One thing most forget: Travel and transportation that is car-focused ignores those who can't yet/anymore operate a car. Better public transport allows you granny to travel easier as well as your children.
- Tade0 3y ago
  I seem to have not make my point clear enough: You can't persuade people using money, at least not the kind of money cities can afford, as there are plenty of equally paid, less stressful and more interesting things to do with your life. In my city of 600k inhabitants there's a shortage of around 100 drivers - and that's just to service the lines that are currently operating. That's approximately 80k people not having their transportation needs met. The city is also cripplingly congested, but that's expected when you can't rely on public transportation. We need a solution that doesn't rely on demographics like they were in the 60s or even 80s.

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