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Easy solution: Find the common manager of everyone that could have screwed the door up, and hold them responsible.
by hedora 3y ago
Easy solution: Find the common manager of everyone that could have screwed the door up, and hold them responsible.
- thinkingkong 3y ago[flagged]
- readyman 3y agoBut that manager worked so hard to be the person who gets to decide who to blame!
- _heimdall 3y agoWouldn't the be the CEO?
- chimpanzee 3y agoPresumably you’d want the lowest common manager within the power structure.
- hnlmorg 3y agoUnfortunately that's still the CEO. The problems with Boeing are company wide.
- rsynnott 3y agoThe current one's only been CEO for four years; the structural problems presumably are older. Like, they probably _should_ consider losing the CEO, but that in itself is not going to fix anything.
- hnlmorg 3y agoThe CEO has been on the board for much longer than 4 years though. And I agree that losing the CEO isn’t going to fix things. But putting leadership there that places safety above share value will. And the CEO is part of that leadership that needs to change.
- buildsjets 3y agoDave Calhoun was a member of the Board of Directors loooooooong before he was crowned CEO. Since 2009. Dave knows where all of the bodies are buried. In fact, he was on the board, and it’s lead director, when the 346 bodies of the Lion Air and Ethiopian passengers were buried. The man has blood on his hands.
- deelowe 3y agoThere are two companies and multiple teams involved. It sounds like this is a process gap. One company has a process that states to remove and reinstall the doors but doesn't mention checking torque. Second company takes over and their procedure states to check fitment but not torque. Something like that is likely what's happening here.
- mannykannot 3y agoThat's quite plausible, but at some level in the hierarchy, there is someone who has the responsibility of not letting things fall through the cracks - if no-one else, then it is the CEO. If outsourcing is a de facto means of avoiding responsibility, then guess what the consequences are.
- jhugo 3y agoThis may be satisfying but does nothing to prevent a recurrence. Fixing the process is much more useful if you want safer aircraft.
- pooper 3y agoWhy should public money fix a process that will help Boeing shareholder value? The executive leadership should lose their own (potential?) personal money over this incident. Until that happens, nothing will get fixed.
- deelowe 3y agoWe don't know the specific process failure. While I appreciate your anger, it's a bit premature.
- mannykannot 3y agoIt is not sufficient, in itself, to prevent a recurrence, but adjusting the incentives to encourage preventative measures is a time-honored and generally effective way of getting results. It is more effective than shrugging one's shoulders and saying "It's so complicated! It can't be helped..."
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoFinding someone to blame isn’t the point. That’s for the influencers, politicians and armchair commentators. Engineers should seek to find solutions; the NTSB and FAA have a terrific track record in this respect.