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> Cities are welcome to erect whatever barriers they like to private cars. https://youtu.be/VWDFgzAjr1k?si=IQbceOTAEhmJ6nmw&t=537 https://youtu.be/VWDFgzAjr1k?

> Cities are welcome to erect whatever barriers they like to private cars. https://youtu.be/VWDFgzAjr1k?si=IQbceOTAEhmJ6nmw&t=537 https://youtu.be/VWDFgzAjr1k?si=IQbceOTAEhmJ6nmw&t=537 "The real problem is that we couldn’t build another place like this if we wanted to. It’s not allowed. It’s literally illegal in Canada, to build something like this today."

ghaff 3y ago
There are islands in the US that may or may not be literally car-free but certainly have very few cars, e.g. the Cranberry Islands in Maine, Isle au Haut, etc. Probably around the San Juans in Washington State. Of course, taking a boat to go to the grocery store may not be what you have in mind. But there are certainly at least almost car-free options if you're willing to live with the tradeoffs. Of course, they're not cities.
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago
  I've never been to Maine, but we have many small islands in BC with very few cars as well. However, despite the small quantity of cars, they're as car-dependent as anywhere; it's very dangerous for pedestrians to walk across them, because the roads have high speed limits, no sidewalks or shoulders, blind turns, and no lighting, so you're in danger of being hit by one of the (very few) cars screaming by at a high speed. Just like most rural areas in North America, and nothing like the neighbourhood described in the linked video. But maybe it's better in Maine.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Plenty of small islands off Maine have essentially no car traffic, even if they have roads, and are very safe to walk; I've done it plenty of times. Of course, others are essentially just rural communities with no sidewalks and traffic on country roads. That said, I'm guessing most people envisioning car-free cities aren't thinking in terms of a once a month trip to the mainland to buy groceries.
    - bedobi 3y ago
      It’s so strange when motorists talk and act like there aren’t countless cities around the world where people do just that - live life with zero need for or benefit from a car. They buy groceries, take the kids to soccer practice and visit grandma too you know.

ghaff 3y ago

There are islands in the US that may or may not be literally car-free but certainly have very few cars, e.g. the Cranberry Islands in Maine, Isle au Haut, etc. Probably around the San Juans in Washington State. Of course, taking a boat to go to the grocery store may not be what you have in mind. But there are certainly at least almost car-free options if you're willing to live with the tradeoffs. Of course, they're not cities.

mitthrowaway2 3y ago
I've never been to Maine, but we have many small islands in BC with very few cars as well. However, despite the small quantity of cars, they're as car-dependent as anywhere; it's very dangerous for pedestrians to walk across them, because the roads have high speed limits, no sidewalks or shoulders, blind turns, and no lighting, so you're in danger of being hit by one of the (very few) cars screaming by at a high speed. Just like most rural areas in North America, and nothing like the neighbourhood described in the linked video. But maybe it's better in Maine.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Plenty of small islands off Maine have essentially no car traffic, even if they have roads, and are very safe to walk; I've done it plenty of times. Of course, others are essentially just rural communities with no sidewalks and traffic on country roads. That said, I'm guessing most people envisioning car-free cities aren't thinking in terms of a once a month trip to the mainland to buy groceries.
  - bedobi 3y ago
    It’s so strange when motorists talk and act like there aren’t countless cities around the world where people do just that - live life with zero need for or benefit from a car. They buy groceries, take the kids to soccer practice and visit grandma too you know.