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This has also been one of the deadliest wars for civilians in general. Also when you’re using such a loose definition of journalist obviously the deaths would b
by addicted 3y ago
This has also been one of the deadliest wars for civilians in general. Also when you’re using such a loose definition of journalist obviously the deaths would be greater.
- zizee 3y agoAre you saying this war has a higher civilian casualty ratio that other wars? Sadly history shows that civilians have been casualties of war at high rates compared to combatants. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio
- falseprofit 3y agoThat article suggests the average ratio to be 1:1, so yes this war has a higher ratio.
- ars 3y agoIsrael estimated 12,000 Hamas at a time when Hamas figures claimed 26,000 dead. That's pretty close to 1:1. Part of the trouble is Israel can't prove the 12,000, and no one actually believes the Hamas figures are legitimate. But there are not better figures available for either number. So 1:1 for Gaza is the best we can estimate.
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- belorn 3y agoThe US defined combatant in their latest wars as any male killed over the age of 14, so the ratio is a bit up to how people choose to define combatant vs civilian. The wikipedia article should be read as a starting point in understanding how extremely unreliable those numbers are, and how much it depend on how people define combatant and civilian.
- zizee 3y agoThe article also gives examples of many major wars, with the majority of examples have numbers of civilians killed usually greater than combatants. So, as horrific as this war has been, I don't think the claim that this is "one of the the deadliest wars for civilians in general" holds up.
- someotherperson 3y agoI don't think they said that it was the highest, they just said "one of." From that list, 2:1 or 3:1 is certainly quite deadly.
- zizee 3y agoThe original post made it sound unusual that civilians are dying in such high numbers. It is unfortunately not unusual that civilians die at higher numbers than combatants during war, the opposite is often true.
- ars 3y ago> This has also been one of the deadliest wars for civilians in general. That's not actually true. The ratio is similar to other wars. Civilians die in war, they die a lot. War sucks. But Gaza is not unusually deadly compared to other wars.
- erokar 3y agoCompare it to the Russia/Ukraine war. Not even close. In any case Israel is not conducting a war, they are conducting a massacre.
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- erokar 3y ago> Well not like all others, this one has Jews in it, so it gets extra attention. What's that supposed to mean?
- ars 3y agoWell, let's quiz you then: What country currently has millions of people are risk of starving to death due to war? I'll give you more clues: it's also one of the largest mass displacements of people due to war in current times, with plenty of rape and ethnic cleansing. I will of course want to see how many comments you've posted about the topic, and how many HN submissions. Since obviously this war is many times larger than Gaza, so should command a much larger portion of your attention.
- erokar 3y agoAh I see, the common whataboutism combined with a little bit of antisemitism accusations. Good one.
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- bawolff 3y ago> This has also been one of the deadliest wars for civilians in general. I don't think that is a true statement. Obviously it is bad for civilians in any war, but there are other conficts that have been much worse.
- m000 3y ago[flagged]