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Wondering how this affects Apple employees. Back in the day, working for Apple seemed cool. (Pirate flags on building etc). Previously MSFT used to be (maybe t

by vlod 3y ago

Wondering how this affects Apple employees. Back in the day, working for Apple seemed cool. (Pirate flags on building etc). Previously MSFT used to be (maybe they've turned that around?) the most hated tech company (becz of their very aggressive attitudes to competitors especially Netscape). One thing they didn't FU and is represented by the infamous sweaty Balmer video [0] of him shouting "Developers, developers, developers", is pissing of people who build on their platform. Well Apple seems to have topped that with this and other malicious compliance shenanigans in the EU. I can't every imagine developing an iOS/native app on that platform going forward. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

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dmitrygr 3y ago
From working at apple, I remember that most engineers just work hard to make good hardware and software. I've heard very few mentions of what anyone outside of apple thinks of it
- 7moritz7 3y ago
  You'd assume making good hardware and software requires outside feedback. "Thoughts", one might say.
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xk_id 3y ago
Apple has been driving developers away for quite some time now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19966135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19966135
mataug 3y ago
> Wondering how this affects Apple employees. Back in the day, working for Apple seemed cool. Most employees are trying to pay bills and keep ar roof. Especially in today's tech job market, people are trying to avoid getting laid off. Very few people have the luxury of being able to think about apple seeming like a cool place to work or not. So I would say this doesn't affect most apple employees in anyway.
jes5199 3y ago
well, I've published iOS apps but every time I have to go through the app review process I ask myself: is this really worth it? To have an inscrutable and vaguely hostile process tell me whether my customers are allowed to run my code? Increasingly often, my answer is no. Maybe the fight with Epic doesn't affect me directly, but it's just another thing that colors my impression of the "fairness" of the app store.

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dmitrygr 3y ago

From working at apple, I remember that most engineers just work hard to make good hardware and software. I've heard very few mentions of what anyone outside of apple thinks of it

7moritz7 3y ago
You'd assume making good hardware and software requires outside feedback. "Thoughts", one might say.

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xk_id 3y ago

Apple has been driving developers away for quite some time now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19966135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19966135

mataug 3y ago

> Wondering how this affects Apple employees. Back in the day, working for Apple seemed cool. Most employees are trying to pay bills and keep ar roof. Especially in today's tech job market, people are trying to avoid getting laid off. Very few people have the luxury of being able to think about apple seeming like a cool place to work or not. So I would say this doesn't affect most apple employees in anyway.

jes5199 3y ago

well, I've published iOS apps but every time I have to go through the app review process I ask myself: is this really worth it? To have an inscrutable and vaguely hostile process tell me whether my customers are allowed to run my code? Increasingly often, my answer is no. Maybe the fight with Epic doesn't affect me directly, but it's just another thing that colors my impression of the "fairness" of the app store.