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I do not understand the debate. If I buy 1 liter of Exxon gasoline and seal it in an impermeable container and then embed that container in a concrete block an

I do not understand the debate. If I buy 1 liter of Exxon gasoline and seal it in an impermeable container and then embed that container in a concrete block and bury the concrete block, no Scope 3 emissions are generated. Or if you want to be pedantic VERY EXTREMELY FEW Scope 3 emissions, such as vapors during the dispensing process, are generated. If I burn that 1 liter of Exxon gasoline, Scope 3 emission are generated. Additionally, I can control the nature of the emissions based on the way in which and apparatus in which I choose to burn the gasoline and any used emissions control devices (or lack thereof). I may choose to not burn the gasoline-- I may use it as a solvent, recapture it, and reuse it until it either degrades into its constituent parts or evaporates. Nobody is forcing me to purchase gasoline it is perfectly possible to live a life where not a single liter of gasoline is directly consumed by me. It would be difficult and alienating, but it is possible. The emissions are my responsibility, not Exxon's.

quantified 3y ago
That is the point. But there are multiple players in the system, each can point their finger somewhere else. The Western consumer purchases vehicles from whatever selection is manufactured. Presumably advertising works, if it didn't it wouldn't be run. What is available, what is advertised? Lots of gas guzzlers. Why do the manufacturers make them? Some people want them. Some don't. Consumers also want to consume. So more ships fling more goods and cruise passengers around the globe with super bad emissions. Consumers want to fly everywhere, same thing. Consumers wouldn't consume if the thing to consume wasn't offered, but it is. (I think of the real estate finance collapse in the USA circa 2008 as another multi-party problem, everyone supporting or enabling someone else in it.) He is not wrong. He is absolutely right. Who is going to give up their Amazon prime to reduce oil demand? Everyone will point out how insignificant contribution X will be to the total and avoid doing it.

quantified 3y ago

That is the point. But there are multiple players in the system, each can point their finger somewhere else. The Western consumer purchases vehicles from whatever selection is manufactured. Presumably advertising works, if it didn't it wouldn't be run. What is available, what is advertised? Lots of gas guzzlers. Why do the manufacturers make them? Some people want them. Some don't. Consumers also want to consume. So more ships fling more goods and cruise passengers around the globe with super bad emissions. Consumers want to fly everywhere, same thing. Consumers wouldn't consume if the thing to consume wasn't offered, but it is. (I think of the real estate finance collapse in the USA circa 2008 as another multi-party problem, everyone supporting or enabling someone else in it.) He is not wrong. He is absolutely right. Who is going to give up their Amazon prime to reduce oil demand? Everyone will point out how insignificant contribution X will be to the total and avoid doing it.