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That sounds like a function of the people you've met tbh. Looking at job postings around these parts, the most widespread platform remains .NET. Whilst the non
by estel 14y ago
That sounds like a function of the people you've met tbh. Looking at job postings around these parts, the most widespread platform remains .NET.
Whilst the non-existent adoption amongst startups doesn't necessarily bode well for MSFT's future, there is still a huge amount of .NET development going on worldwide.
- rbanffy 14y agoSure many enterprises use .NET, just like many enterprises use Java and COBOL running on zSeries mainframes. What fraction of that .NET jobs would you call "interesting" of "cutting edge"? .NET developers aren't in the endangered species list. Not more than COBOL developers who know what CICS means.
- slavak 14y agoI've been to & heard of plenty of startups doing cutting edge things and using .NET. Maybe a geographical thing?
- fryguy 14y agoI like to think that my job of writing software with .NET to control deep sea robots is interesting. How many ruby/python developers could you say the same thing about though? I mean, most web apps are simple CRUD things, which are not interesting or cutting edge. That's an invariant across all programmers.
- eropple 14y agoNo kidding. I mean, I don't work on deep sea robots, but I really dig making games with .NET and find it awfully interesting. If you read HN enough, you'll find that rbanffy's posts generally seem to come from a worldview where credit due to Microsoft, or even to those who use Microsoft products, is close to untenable. In other fora I've seen similar people referred to as ABMers - Anything But Microsoft. I mean, I'm pretty much a Linux/Unix guy (Macs and Linux alike), but I use .NET because it's the most portable option worth working with for my stuff. It's good for that. Sometimes even--gasp--Microsoft comes up with something worthwhile, and outside of the universes perpetuated by folks like rbanffy, many Microsoft products are even liked.
- virmundi 14y agoThe thing about adoption in start ups is that Visual Studio 2010 Pro is so expensive. If Microsoft really wants to stay relevant they have to release Pro for free. They have to compete on price with the Eclipse or VIM/command line world. Until then, they will slowly die off. (The express versions are a joke, don't even get me started).
- Elepsis 14y agoMicrosoft runs a BizSpark program that, for all intents and purposes, gives startups access to most Microsoft software for free. http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/
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- kmontrose 14y agoYou only pay for licenses over 4 OS and 2 SQL Server (or outright new ones) after graduating BizSpark. 2 SQL Servers (OS licenses are chump change by comparison) go a loooong way* too, as you're presumably scaling up rather than out. http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/about/Graduation.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/about/Graduation.aspx Through the grapevine I hear the "review" process (for more free licenses at graduation) is extraordinarily accommodating, though I'd guess if you're spinning up a box per customer or something insane you'd get denied. Lots of people get this wrong, I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't carved this correction into a mountain somewhere... *Stack Exchange is running 2 + failover ( http://blog.serverfault.com/2011/09/30/the-stack-exchange-architecture-2011-edition-episode-1/ http://blog.serverfault.com/2011/09/30/the-stack-exchange-ar... ), and was running on 1 not too terribly long ago.
- yuhong 14y agoDid not realize it changed later. Thank you.
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