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Could just as well say they stopped being desperate. They cobbled together what they needed from where they could.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
There are a lot of big companies that continue to produce and use open standards. In general it benefits them, because it's "commoditize your complement." Google sells advertising so they want web standards so that more things use the web and therefore Google ads. Intel sells server CPUs so they contribute to Linux to keep customers from being locked into proprietary Unix on proprietary RISC architectures. Doing the opposite is generally short-sighted. In the short term you lock customers in and make more money, but then you get everyone else in the industry lined up trying to find a way to cut you out, and eventually one of them succeeds.
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  Oh sure. How compatible are IBM machines? They now run linux only because they simply have to. And so they do, in the least compatible way possible. Almost everyone tries to do this as much as possible, not just Apple. Initially everyone could make their own stuff 100% unique, hardware and software. Like the early HP machines, a total universe of their own. It's only over time that customers gradually insist on a few standards here and there after they get burned bad enough, and so some things get standard, but even then only incompletely and begrudgingly and always trying to find some way claw back or obsolete get around some other way.
  - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
    > How compatible are IBM machines? What do you mean? You can install arbitrary third party Linux distributions like Ubuntu on IBM POWER hardware and they work fine. Meanwhile they've been conceding most of the server market to Intel and AMD for a long time, because the OS is a commodity and then what matters is who makes the best processors, which isn't IBM. > It's only over time that customers gradually insist on a few standards here and there after they get burned bad enough, and so some things get standard, but even then only incompletely and begrudgingly and always trying to find some way claw back or obsolete get around some other way. That's what the walking dead platforms try to do when they're set on continuing to die. Milk every last dime out of the companies foolish enough to buy something that wasn't standardized to begin with. Then their customers flee to open systems as soon as they can get out from under the lock-in and the legacy vendors, having ruined their own reputations, can't replace the customers they're losing and slowly bleed to death until they go bankrupt or get bought out.

There are a lot of big companies that continue to produce and use open standards. In general it benefits them, because it's "commoditize your complement." Google sells advertising so they want web standards so that more things use the web and therefore Google ads. Intel sells server CPUs so they contribute to Linux to keep customers from being locked into proprietary Unix on proprietary RISC architectures. Doing the opposite is generally short-sighted. In the short term you lock customers in and make more money, but then you get everyone else in the industry lined up trying to find a way to cut you out, and eventually one of them succeeds.

Brian_K_White 3y ago
Oh sure. How compatible are IBM machines? They now run linux only because they simply have to. And so they do, in the least compatible way possible. Almost everyone tries to do this as much as possible, not just Apple. Initially everyone could make their own stuff 100% unique, hardware and software. Like the early HP machines, a total universe of their own. It's only over time that customers gradually insist on a few standards here and there after they get burned bad enough, and so some things get standard, but even then only incompletely and begrudgingly and always trying to find some way claw back or obsolete get around some other way.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  > How compatible are IBM machines? What do you mean? You can install arbitrary third party Linux distributions like Ubuntu on IBM POWER hardware and they work fine. Meanwhile they've been conceding most of the server market to Intel and AMD for a long time, because the OS is a commodity and then what matters is who makes the best processors, which isn't IBM. > It's only over time that customers gradually insist on a few standards here and there after they get burned bad enough, and so some things get standard, but even then only incompletely and begrudgingly and always trying to find some way claw back or obsolete get around some other way. That's what the walking dead platforms try to do when they're set on continuing to die. Milk every last dime out of the companies foolish enough to buy something that wasn't standardized to begin with. Then their customers flee to open systems as soon as they can get out from under the lock-in and the legacy vendors, having ruined their own reputations, can't replace the customers they're losing and slowly bleed to death until they go bankrupt or get bought out.