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When your smartphone becomes a critical health device to support/treat a condition I wonder how that will impact case law around things like police confiscation
by rkagerer 3y ago
When your smartphone becomes a critical health device to support/treat a condition I wonder how that will impact case law around things like police confiscation.
- uxamanda 3y agoInteresting, never thought about that. Also wonder what happens in Airplane mode / poor reception?
- shanselman 3y agoit's all BLE and works great on an airplane as long as BT is on
- hammock 3y agoCGMs use bluetooth
- justinclift 3y agoBluetooth has a terrible reputation around reliability. :(
- pastage 3y agoIn the loop community (CGM+insuling pump) you usually have a list of phones that work well with Bluetooth. Yes that changes when the phones get new powersaving settings and driver updates, usually it works well on good phones.
- justinclift 3y agoYeah, that sounds like a practical approach for dealing with it. :)
- saagarjha 3y agoWhat happens when an officer confiscates your glucose monitor today? I assume you die and they claim they did it for some valid reason or the other.
- Terr_ 3y agoOr just withholding the insulin itself: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/diabetes-police/ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/diabetes-police/
- mlsu 3y agoWow, that article is wild. For those who are not aware, ketoacidosis is when your body metabolizes fat for energy in the absence of insulin. This produces byproducts (keytone bodies) that raise the pH of the blood. So, having ketoacidosis feels like having your blood turn to acid. Death from ketoacidosis is an excruciating death. Fermenting from the inside out as your heart pumps your increasingly acidic blood through your entire body. You're technically starving, so you're hungry, but at the same time your body is trying to expel glucose at all costs, so everything you look at makes you sick. Extended periods of high blood glucose and lack of insulin especially is up there as one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever experienced personally. Just unimaginable cruelty.
- thecosas 3y agoCan confirm, feels like crap.
- bschne 3y agoYes, but you can't easily use your non-smartphone glucose monitor as a communications device to manage a bunch of drug dealers which can't be confiscated because your life depends on it. That changes once it's your smartphone.
- saagarjha 3y agoSee, my point is that they’ll do it already when it’s not even reasonable to do so. So when they take your phone away, which can be done so more credibly, why would you expect more protections?
- reaperman 3y agoSadly it will probably receive very little consideration.
- contravariant 3y agoThere's a reason most regulations are written in blood.
- BelleOfTheBall 3y agoWhile there is usually some big case that then defines things like this, I'm worried whether any incidents of a person dying or developing life-threatening issues due their phone being confiscated will change much. We've historically erred on the side of police exercising their power to enforce laws.
- huytersd 3y agoThe cops will probably deliberately keep it from you as a threat.
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- eitally 3y agoSoftware as a Medical Device has been a regulated "thing" for years now, and in this case the Abbott Freestyle app is a mandatory requirement for the CGM To function. If the app can't connect to the CGM, the thing will make your phone beep incessantly. Similarly, if your blood glucose levels exceed "safe" thresholds, it will alert at full volume in a way you are not allowed to override. Frankly, this is as it should be, but it does indeed convolute things when the device interface (phone) is used for so much more, too.