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> We own this platform, (we built this platform), we make the rules I own my phone, I make the rules. If Apple doesn't want Epic on the App Store, fine. But t

> We own this platform, (we built this platform), we make the rules I own my phone, I make the rules. If Apple doesn't want Epic on the App Store, fine. But their current level of control over what people can do with the devices they purchased and own is absurd and has nothing to do with market size.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
No no, you see the restrictions are there for YOUR protection. "Won't someone please think of the children?"
- _aavaa_ 3y ago
  "Anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit"
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    HN's collective opinion: "Hey, if you don't like Apple's walled garden, the you can giit out! [and move to Android]" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM
    - djmips 3y ago
      It's a variation on the temporarily embarassed millionaires. HN is full of temporarily embarassed walled garden magnates. The say I don't want oligopolies or walled gardens punished because one day I could own a walled garden money making machine!
- blehn 3y ago
  You say that like someone who didn't have to periodically clean/erase/throw away their parents' malware-infested Windows machine (which was already bogged down by anti-virus software) in the early '00s. Not that I agree with every Apple policy, but it's hard to argue that their customers aren't generally more "protected" than they have been on other platforms. The fact that my mom can safely use an iPhone for 4-5 years with little to no support from me is incredible.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >You say that like someone who didn't have to periodically clean/erase/throw away their parents' malware-infested Windows machine (which was already bogged down by anti-virus software) in the early '00s. Yes I have, you don't know me. And that's not an argument. Apple's MacOS is open unlike iOS and that's not full of malware or users getting scammed daily then what makes you think they'll suddenly start getting scammed on iOS. Explain that please.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

No no, you see the restrictions are there for YOUR protection. "Won't someone please think of the children?"

_aavaa_ 3y ago
"Anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit"
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  HN's collective opinion: "Hey, if you don't like Apple's walled garden, the you can giit out! [and move to Android]" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM
  - djmips 3y ago
    It's a variation on the temporarily embarassed millionaires. HN is full of temporarily embarassed walled garden magnates. The say I don't want oligopolies or walled gardens punished because one day I could own a walled garden money making machine!
blehn 3y ago
You say that like someone who didn't have to periodically clean/erase/throw away their parents' malware-infested Windows machine (which was already bogged down by anti-virus software) in the early '00s. Not that I agree with every Apple policy, but it's hard to argue that their customers aren't generally more "protected" than they have been on other platforms. The fact that my mom can safely use an iPhone for 4-5 years with little to no support from me is incredible.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >You say that like someone who didn't have to periodically clean/erase/throw away their parents' malware-infested Windows machine (which was already bogged down by anti-virus software) in the early '00s. Yes I have, you don't know me. And that's not an argument. Apple's MacOS is open unlike iOS and that's not full of malware or users getting scammed daily then what makes you think they'll suddenly start getting scammed on iOS. Explain that please.