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What baffles me is that, when I bought insurance for my car, the insurance company asked me if it's equipped with an immobilizer, explaining that it gets a disc
by myself248 3y ago
What baffles me is that, when I bought insurance for my car, the insurance company asked me if it's equipped with an immobilizer, explaining that it gets a discount if so. It is, and I answered as such, but why wouldn't they have known that already based on the VIN? I profoundly doubt that most consumers know the difference between a key, an immobilizer, and a steering wheel lock, for instance.
Furthermore, I'd imagine most Kia drivers assumed theirs were likewise equipped, and answered as such, and paid the lower rates associated with immobilizer-equipped vehicles despite the precise opposite being the case. If the insurance company had known which models didn't have immobilizers, rather than taking customers' incentivized guesses as data, word would quickly have spread that "these cars are cheap to buy but crazy to insure", and the market might've had a chance to pressure Kia into doing the obvious.
Fundamentally, I think insurance companies dropped the ball on quantifying the risk. And I hope we see substantial investments in cybersecurity analysis by the insurance companies going forward, it's the only way the market can function.
- JohnFen 3y ago> why wouldn't they have known that already based on the VIN? People can, and lots of people do, install aftermarket immobilizers in their cars. There would be no way to know if someone did that based on the VIN.
- myself248 3y agoSure, but I'd think they'd want some sort of documentation, even just a model name, to suggest that you know what you're talking about. I literally said "uh I think so, the key is expensive to duplicate, is that an immobilizer?" because I didn't want to represent something I wasn't certain of, and they gave me the credit. I later researched it and found out yes, it does have one, but I didn't know and most consumers don't either.
- JohnFen 3y ago> even just a model name What model name? Of the immobilizer? I've installed immobilizers on every one of my cars, but they've just been a hidden killswitch I wired in myself. There is no model name.