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'Propaganda' is just a Latin gerundive meaning 'thing needing to be propagated'. The word was used in Germany and the Soviet Union, whereas the United Kingdom h

by cjs_ac 3y ago

'Propaganda' is just a Latin gerundive meaning 'thing needing to be propagated'. The word was used in Germany and the Soviet Union, whereas the United Kingdom had a Ministry of Information in the World Wars doing the exact same things. The Anglophone world has negative connotations for the word 'propaganda' purely because our enemies used that word more than us.

briantakita 3y ago
> The Anglophone world has negative connotations for the word 'propaganda' purely because our enemies used that word more than us. Who is "our" & "us"? If it's not me, am I "the enemy"?
- panzagl 3y ago
  The Anglophone world is "our" and "us". Since our enemies "used" that word, you are only one if you also live in the past tense.
  - briantakita 3y ago
    > Since our enemies "used" that word, you are only one if you also live in the past tense. Kindof like the English speaking people of Japanese descent in the Western US circa 1940. Stripped of their property & sent to internment camps. I hope history does not repeat itself in present & future "propagation" efforts. But hope & reality are two different things. I would love to meet the "we" or "us" that is doing the propaganda. To propagate what I think about their efforts of course.
slowturtle 3y ago
Just because "we" are from English-speaking countries doesn't mean "we" have the same "enemies", and the idea that people are assigned a list of enemies based on where they're born is insane. Being born on the same patch of dirt doesn't mean I have anything to do with you.
- margalabargala 3y ago
  This is a remarkably uncharitable reading of the comment you replied to. The person was pretty clearly talking in the past tense about WWII, not claiming that anyone is your enemy now. Whether you like it or not, being born on a particular patch of dirt means that you are in fact part of the shared history of people born on that patch of dirt, which includes having had the Germans as enemies at one or two points in the past.
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supperrtadderr 3y ago
Goebbels was literally the Minister of Propaganda lol

by cjs_ac 3y ago

briantakita 3y ago

> The Anglophone world has negative connotations for the word 'propaganda' purely because our enemies used that word more than us. Who is "our" & "us"? If it's not me, am I "the enemy"?

panzagl 3y ago
The Anglophone world is "our" and "us". Since our enemies "used" that word, you are only one if you also live in the past tense.
- briantakita 3y ago
  > Since our enemies "used" that word, you are only one if you also live in the past tense. Kindof like the English speaking people of Japanese descent in the Western US circa 1940. Stripped of their property & sent to internment camps. I hope history does not repeat itself in present & future "propagation" efforts. But hope & reality are two different things. I would love to meet the "we" or "us" that is doing the propaganda. To propagate what I think about their efforts of course.

slowturtle 3y ago

Just because "we" are from English-speaking countries doesn't mean "we" have the same "enemies", and the idea that people are assigned a list of enemies based on where they're born is insane. Being born on the same patch of dirt doesn't mean I have anything to do with you.

margalabargala 3y ago
This is a remarkably uncharitable reading of the comment you replied to. The person was pretty clearly talking in the past tense about WWII, not claiming that anyone is your enemy now. Whether you like it or not, being born on a particular patch of dirt means that you are in fact part of the shared history of people born on that patch of dirt, which includes having had the Germans as enemies at one or two points in the past.

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supperrtadderr 3y ago

Goebbels was literally the Minister of Propaganda lol