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It's hard to understand because it's wrong. Again, apart from certain fundamental rights (e.g. right to life) you only "have" are the right that are granted by

It's hard to understand because it's wrong. Again, apart from certain fundamental rights (e.g. right to life) you only "have" are the right that are granted by the local laws. What does it mean to "have" a right? It's means you're able to exercise it. Can you exercise your right to bear arms in Germany? No. Can you exercise your right to free speech in North Korea? No. Etc. You only have these rights when you're in your own country. You may enjoy similar rights in similar countries, but that's about it.

Martinussen 3y ago
I suppose the question is if you have a "right to bear arms" or a "right to bear arms that shall be unhampered by the government of the USA" - and either way, you don't have a "right to 3rd party app stores" in this case, Apple has an obligation to provide a service to you (an EU citizen), without certain restrictions. That seems a lot more reasonable for applying no matter where you are at the time.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  You still have the right to bear arms if you're not in the US, it's just you've also got to obey local laws too.
dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
You're confusing local laws and the rights you attain through citizenship or something else. You don't have right to guns in Germany if they are contrary to local laws, otherwise you do. I have rights to consular protection from the EU outside of the EU. My GDPR rights don't stop because I'm outside the EU. Tell me which one of these I'm wrong about.
- yau8edq12i 3y ago
  > You're confusing local laws and the rights you attain through citizenship or something else. I'm not confusing anything. > You don't have right to guns in Germany if they are contrary to local laws, otherwise you do. Then how do you reconcile that with your statement that "US persons have US rights no matter where they are"? > I have rights to consular protection from the EU outside of the EU. The EU offers no consular protection. Member States do. > My GDPR rights don't stop because I'm outside the EU. Yes, they do. https://www.edpb.europa.eu/our-work-tools/our-documents/guidelines/guidelines-32018-territorial-scope-gdpr-article-3-version_en https://www.edpb.europa.eu/our-work-tools/our-documents/guid...
  - malermeister 3y ago
    The EU absolutely offers consular protection. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/consular-protection/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/consular-protect...

Martinussen 3y ago

I suppose the question is if you have a "right to bear arms" or a "right to bear arms that shall be unhampered by the government of the USA" - and either way, you don't have a "right to 3rd party app stores" in this case, Apple has an obligation to provide a service to you (an EU citizen), without certain restrictions. That seems a lot more reasonable for applying no matter where you are at the time.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
You still have the right to bear arms if you're not in the US, it's just you've also got to obey local laws too.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago

You're confusing local laws and the rights you attain through citizenship or something else. You don't have right to guns in Germany if they are contrary to local laws, otherwise you do. I have rights to consular protection from the EU outside of the EU. My GDPR rights don't stop because I'm outside the EU. Tell me which one of these I'm wrong about.

yau8edq12i 3y ago
> You're confusing local laws and the rights you attain through citizenship or something else. I'm not confusing anything. > You don't have right to guns in Germany if they are contrary to local laws, otherwise you do. Then how do you reconcile that with your statement that "US persons have US rights no matter where they are"? > I have rights to consular protection from the EU outside of the EU. The EU offers no consular protection. Member States do. > My GDPR rights don't stop because I'm outside the EU. Yes, they do. https://www.edpb.europa.eu/our-work-tools/our-documents/guidelines/guidelines-32018-territorial-scope-gdpr-article-3-version_en https://www.edpb.europa.eu/our-work-tools/our-documents/guid...
- malermeister 3y ago
  The EU absolutely offers consular protection. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/consular-protection/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/consular-protect...