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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. SpaceX's leadership from Gwynne Shotwell has been truly excellent. I've also heard that many other leaders have had to be

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. SpaceX's leadership from Gwynne Shotwell has been truly excellent. I've also heard that many other leaders have had to be quite influential in order to steer the company in a productive direction while receiving constant dictats from a major shareholder. I've heard the Starlink group is perhaps a bit of a difficult area where that shareholder has too much influence and that it lacks leadership, but other than that the company sounds well run.

rkangel 3y ago
It's also good leadership of an industry by SpaceX. Other companies are following in their trail.
- honeybadger1 3y ago
  Indeed, the industry was a stalled car if anything. You have what I call "professional professionals" that were running the show and saying things while doing nothing.
TMWNN 3y ago
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- me_me_me 3y ago
  funny, that's exactly perception of spaceX i have from interviews and leaks. Where spaceX has a team set up to deal with musk's bs idea to cordon others from his 'aura' when he shows up.
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    That originated from Tumblr about Tesla. i.e csb
  - honeybadger1 3y ago
    I know 3 employees at SpaceX and he is seen as a hero in their eyes regardless what of news media gets paid to post about him.
    - me_me_me 3y ago
      > news media gets paid to post about him huh? All media is eating out of his palm, painting him as genius inventor that will save the earth.
      - pavlov 3y ago
        It’s an essential tenet of right-wing authoritarian leadership to cultivate the idea that communist reporters are out to get you and doing their best to make sure nobody hears about your heroic deeds. From Brazil to Hungary, Moscow to Silicon Valley, they all do this. You can be Time’s Man of the Year and have Walter Isaacson write your bestseller hagiography, yet still have a persecution complex. Even Italy’s Berlusconi liked to play this card even though he owned the media.
        leereeves 3y ago
        Can either of you point out examples of the media eating out of his palm? I haven't seen it. Here's what the NYT said about that "hagiography": > Walter Isaacson’s biography of the billionaire entrepreneur depicts a mercurial “man-child” with grandiose ambitions and an ego to match. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/books/review/elon-musk-walter-isaacson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/books/review/elon-musk-wa...
        pavlov 3y ago
        ”The richest man in the world does not own a house and has recently been selling off his fortune. He tosses satellites into orbit and harnesses the sun; he drives a car he created that uses no gas and barely needs a driver. With a flick of his finger, the stock market soars or swoons. An army of devotees hangs on his every utterance. He dreams of Mars as he bestrides Earth, square-jawed and indomitable.” https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2021-elon-musk/ https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2021-elon-musk/ This was the dominant storyline in 2010-2021 until he shot his foot off with the Twitter purchase.
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honeybadger1 3y ago
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kaliqt 3y ago
It's Elon that's doing it.
D13Fd 3y ago
He’s getting downvoted because people are reading his comment as “thanks Elon Musk, our conservative hero” rather than “thanks Gwynne Shotwell.” I don’t know how he meant it.
- honeybadger1 3y ago
  I think it's important that we have strong leadership figures. They are both good leaders, whether they are conservative or not is irrelevant. I would love to think people can rise above that everything boils down to political associations(even the ones that only exist in their own head).
jhgb 3y ago
You mean the "major shareholder" who intervened in the Starlink division when progress was going nowhere, and suddenly progress was going somewhere? On that note, it's funny how some people attribute results to different people depending on whether the results are good or bad, with no consistency at all regarding their responsibility.

rkangel 3y ago

It's also good leadership of an industry by SpaceX. Other companies are following in their trail.

honeybadger1 3y ago
Indeed, the industry was a stalled car if anything. You have what I call "professional professionals" that were running the show and saying things while doing nothing.

TMWNN 3y ago

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me_me_me 3y ago
funny, that's exactly perception of spaceX i have from interviews and leaks. Where spaceX has a team set up to deal with musk's bs idea to cordon others from his 'aura' when he shows up.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  That originated from Tumblr about Tesla. i.e csb
- honeybadger1 3y ago
  I know 3 employees at SpaceX and he is seen as a hero in their eyes regardless what of news media gets paid to post about him.
  - me_me_me 3y ago
    > news media gets paid to post about him huh? All media is eating out of his palm, painting him as genius inventor that will save the earth.
    - pavlov 3y ago
      It’s an essential tenet of right-wing authoritarian leadership to cultivate the idea that communist reporters are out to get you and doing their best to make sure nobody hears about your heroic deeds. From Brazil to Hungary, Moscow to Silicon Valley, they all do this. You can be Time’s Man of the Year and have Walter Isaacson write your bestseller hagiography, yet still have a persecution complex. Even Italy’s Berlusconi liked to play this card even though he owned the media.
      - leereeves 3y ago
        Can either of you point out examples of the media eating out of his palm? I haven't seen it. Here's what the NYT said about that "hagiography": > Walter Isaacson’s biography of the billionaire entrepreneur depicts a mercurial “man-child” with grandiose ambitions and an ego to match. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/books/review/elon-musk-walter-isaacson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/books/review/elon-musk-wa...
        pavlov 3y ago
        ”The richest man in the world does not own a house and has recently been selling off his fortune. He tosses satellites into orbit and harnesses the sun; he drives a car he created that uses no gas and barely needs a driver. With a flick of his finger, the stock market soars or swoons. An army of devotees hangs on his every utterance. He dreams of Mars as he bestrides Earth, square-jawed and indomitable.” https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2021-elon-musk/ https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2021-elon-musk/ This was the dominant storyline in 2010-2021 until he shot his foot off with the Twitter purchase.
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honeybadger1 3y ago

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kaliqt 3y ago

It's Elon that's doing it.

D13Fd 3y ago

He’s getting downvoted because people are reading his comment as “thanks Elon Musk, our conservative hero” rather than “thanks Gwynne Shotwell.” I don’t know how he meant it.

honeybadger1 3y ago
I think it's important that we have strong leadership figures. They are both good leaders, whether they are conservative or not is irrelevant. I would love to think people can rise above that everything boils down to political associations(even the ones that only exist in their own head).

jhgb 3y ago

You mean the "major shareholder" who intervened in the Starlink division when progress was going nowhere, and suddenly progress was going somewhere? On that note, it's funny how some people attribute results to different people depending on whether the results are good or bad, with no consistency at all regarding their responsibility.