4 ms·

So.. "open" means "open at first, then not so much or not at all as we get closer to achieving AGI"? As they become more successful, they (obviously) have a lo

So.. "open" means "open at first, then not so much or not at all as we get closer to achieving AGI"? As they become more successful, they (obviously) have a lot of motivation to not be "open" at all, and that's without even considering the so-called ethical arguments. More generally, putting "open" in any name frequently ends up as a cheap marketing gimmick. If you end up going nowhere it doesn't matter, and if you're wildly successful (ahem) then it also won't matter whether or not you're de facto 'open' because success. Maybe someone should start a betting pool on when (not if) they'll change their name.

deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
johnbellone 3y ago
OpenAI by Microsoft?
addicted 3y ago
OpenAI is literally not a word in the dictionary. It’s a made up word. So the Open in OpenAI means whatever OpenAI wants it to mean. It’s a trademarked word. The fact that Elon is suing them for their name when the guy has a feature “AutoPilot” which is not a made up word and had an actual well understood meaning which totally does not apply to how Tesla uses AutoPilot is hilarious.
- ozgung 3y ago
  Actually Open[Technology] pattern implies a meaning in this context. OpenGL, OpenCV, OpenCL etc. are all 'open' implementations of a core technology, maintained by non-profit organizations. So OpenAI non-profit immediately implies a non-profit for researching, building and sharing 'open' AI technologies. Their earlier communication and releases supported that idea. Apparently, their internal definition was different from the very beginning (2016). The only problem with their (Ilya's) definition of 'open' is that it is not very open. "Everyone should benefit from the fruits of AI". How is this different than the mission of any other commercial AI lab? If OpenAI makes the science closed but only their products open, then 'open' is just a term they use to define their target market. A better definition of OpenAi's 'open' is that they are not a secret research lab. They act as a secret research lab, but out in the open.
- samatman 3y ago
  > An autopilot is a system used to control the path of an aircraft, marine craft or spacecraft without requiring constant manual control by a human operator. Autopilots do not replace human operators. Instead, the autopilot assists the operator's control of the vehicle, allowing the operator to focus on broader aspects of operations (for example, monitoring the trajectory, weather and on-board systems). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot Other than the vehicle, this would seem to apply to Tesla's autopilot as well. The "Full Self Driving" claim is the absurd one, odd that you didn't choose that example.

deleted 3y ago

[deleted]

johnbellone 3y ago

OpenAI by Microsoft?

addicted 3y ago

OpenAI is literally not a word in the dictionary. It’s a made up word. So the Open in OpenAI means whatever OpenAI wants it to mean. It’s a trademarked word. The fact that Elon is suing them for their name when the guy has a feature “AutoPilot” which is not a made up word and had an actual well understood meaning which totally does not apply to how Tesla uses AutoPilot is hilarious.

ozgung 3y ago
Actually Open[Technology] pattern implies a meaning in this context. OpenGL, OpenCV, OpenCL etc. are all 'open' implementations of a core technology, maintained by non-profit organizations. So OpenAI non-profit immediately implies a non-profit for researching, building and sharing 'open' AI technologies. Their earlier communication and releases supported that idea. Apparently, their internal definition was different from the very beginning (2016). The only problem with their (Ilya's) definition of 'open' is that it is not very open. "Everyone should benefit from the fruits of AI". How is this different than the mission of any other commercial AI lab? If OpenAI makes the science closed but only their products open, then 'open' is just a term they use to define their target market. A better definition of OpenAi's 'open' is that they are not a secret research lab. They act as a secret research lab, but out in the open.
samatman 3y ago
> An autopilot is a system used to control the path of an aircraft, marine craft or spacecraft without requiring constant manual control by a human operator. Autopilots do not replace human operators. Instead, the autopilot assists the operator's control of the vehicle, allowing the operator to focus on broader aspects of operations (for example, monitoring the trajectory, weather and on-board systems). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot Other than the vehicle, this would seem to apply to Tesla's autopilot as well. The "Full Self Driving" claim is the absurd one, odd that you didn't choose that example.