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I think the article is saying that the last name "Joyce" is the anglicized version of Irish name "Seoighe". Could someone with more knowledge explain in what w
by nkurz 3y ago
I think the article is saying that the last name "Joyce" is the anglicized version of Irish name "Seoighe". Could someone with more knowledge explain in what way this is true? Is it a phonetic translation? Are they pronounced the same? Are they equivalent in some deeper way? Or have I totally misunderstood this section?
- 75w 3y agohttps://www.howtopronounce.com/seoighe https://www.howtopronounce.com/seoighe
- nkurz 3y agoThanks, this confirms that the pronunciation isn't the same at all. "Seoighe" sounds somewhere close to the two syllables "Shoy-Ga", while "Joyce" only has one syllable and a different starting sound. Which still leaves me wondering in what sense these names are equivalent. Was "Joyce" once pronounced differently?
- throwawaymarch5 3y ago"sh" and "J" are closer than you think. They're both pronounced in the back of the throat, so one phoneme can switch to the other given enough time, when moving from one language system to another. The vowel on the end is similar.