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Kagi has tried a few different AI solutions, and now this integration with a different search engine. I think what I want is just a redoubled focus on improving

Kagi has tried a few different AI solutions, and now this integration with a different search engine. I think what I want is just a redoubled focus on improving search results (not quick answers) while maintaining or improving confidentiality. If they announce that my monthly payments are going up, and I suspect it's because they're paying for partnerships with services I don't view as core to the product value that brought me in, I would feel cheated. And if they add those integrations and don't charge more, I'd have to wonder about that too: are they trading something for the integrations, or are they charging me too much?

freediver 3y ago
Neither, we are passing all the savings (we get better search API deals as we grow, AI is getting cheaper...) into making the product better, at no additional cost for the user, to ensure we are still around next year.
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metabagel 3y ago
I think that in 5 years nobody will want to use a search engine which doesn’t have AI capabilities. The stuff which turns you off may be critical to Kagi’s survival.
- disqard 3y ago
  A prescient and pragmatic reply. I too, felt a bit miffed that they were jumping onto this hype bandwagon. However, as an early user, I've continued to support them and I think you've articulated really well why they're doing what they are doing -- and what made me not drop my subscription when I saw them integrate "GenAI" into Kagi.
flexagoon 3y ago
Don't forget that the standard plan of Kagi recently got infinitely cheaper, it used to be limited to 1000 searches a month and switched to pay-as-you-go afterwards, but now it has unlimited searches.
pona-a 3y ago
I believe cutting out the whole GPT craze would be best. OpenAI bills are always anything but negligible and I think most users would agree lowering the subscription cost or using it for things like Wolfram integration may be best for the core product.
- Zambyte 3y ago
  I use the language model features of Kagi many times a day. Specifically, I pay for Ultimate, which gets me access to several different language model providers. I find it to be a great supplement for things that are hard to search for.
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freediver 3y ago

Neither, we are passing all the savings (we get better search API deals as we grow, AI is getting cheaper...) into making the product better, at no additional cost for the user, to ensure we are still around next year.

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metabagel 3y ago

I think that in 5 years nobody will want to use a search engine which doesn’t have AI capabilities. The stuff which turns you off may be critical to Kagi’s survival.

disqard 3y ago
A prescient and pragmatic reply. I too, felt a bit miffed that they were jumping onto this hype bandwagon. However, as an early user, I've continued to support them and I think you've articulated really well why they're doing what they are doing -- and what made me not drop my subscription when I saw them integrate "GenAI" into Kagi.

flexagoon 3y ago

Don't forget that the standard plan of Kagi recently got infinitely cheaper, it used to be limited to 1000 searches a month and switched to pay-as-you-go afterwards, but now it has unlimited searches.

pona-a 3y ago

I believe cutting out the whole GPT craze would be best. OpenAI bills are always anything but negligible and I think most users would agree lowering the subscription cost or using it for things like Wolfram integration may be best for the core product.

Zambyte 3y ago
I use the language model features of Kagi many times a day. Specifically, I pay for Ultimate, which gets me access to several different language model providers. I find it to be a great supplement for things that are hard to search for.

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