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It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is for people to tell an invaded nation, with countless atrocities commited against them, to just give up and move on.
by torlok 3y ago
It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is for people to tell an invaded nation, with countless atrocities commited against them, to just give up and move on.
- The_Colonel 3y agoIt's incredibly patronizing. Those silly Ukrainians don't know what they're doing, let me explain them what they should do. What's so wrong living under Russian yoke anyway? Russian ballet looks nice, it can't be that bad.
- hackandthink 3y agoFighting to the last Ukrainian is even more patronizing.
- The_Colonel 3y agoParroting Kremlin propaganda, nice. It's the same spirit, Ukrainians don't know what they're doing, they just mindlessly obey orders to die for their NATO overlords.
- type0 3y agoReal patronizing is not helping your friends with weapons after you promised to do so
- kelipso 3y agoPlenty of countries have surrendered in the past. Like telling the Japanese they should surrender is so patronizing.
- The_Colonel 3y agoTo be clear, are you equating WW2 Japan to Ukraine here? Don't you see some major differences between the role of the two in their respective wars?
- kelipso 3y agoYou are now moving the discussion from practicality to idealism. Doesn't really matter what ideals they have when they have to consider getting destroyed or not.
- The_Colonel 3y agoThe side with no idealism is bound to lose, because for individuals it's better to run than to fight. Tragedy of the commons. But what you're doing is a category error. It's a completely different thing to ask your enemy to surrender from asking your ally (in a loose sense) to surrender.
- Wytwwww 3y agoJapan was facing a superpower with unlimited resources. Ukraine is facing a second-rate region power which has nothing going for them besides nukes and a large pool of servile and suicidal recruits (so a bit like Japan in that sense). Not exactly equivalent situations?
- ecoquant 3y ago[flagged]