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> When adjusted for factors such as lifestyle choices, women's salaries are on average 95-99% of men's Assuming that is true (I'm not buying Wikipedia as a sou

> When adjusted for factors such as lifestyle choices, women's salaries are on average 95-99% of men's Assuming that is true (I'm not buying Wikipedia as a source), the career and job norms were created by men for men. If it was women who had created them for centuries and men were just joining in, the norms would be structured so that raising children was assumed - like taking weekends off - and not a career killer, and maybe everyone would get a day off every ~28 days (I don't mean that snidely at all; it would be realistic and reasonable). > White, working class British boys are one of the poorest performing demographics in education but I have rarely seen it discussed. As a British lad who left school less than a decade ago, I don't think the education system is suited to engage boys whatsoever. This kind of undermines your comment, IMHO; it's a cliche of white racial solidarity and a race competition. If race doesn't matter to you, then it's not an issue of race. Among successful people in Britain, clearly white males have great advantages. The educational system engages them fine. Maybe it's poor kids of all sorts who don't have access and engagement?

cedws 3y ago
>Assuming that is true (I'm not buying Wikipedia as a source) The sources are on the Wikipedia page itself. > This kind of undermines your comment, IMHO; it's a cliche of white racial solidarity and a race competition Why is it a race competition to point out when white people are at a disadvantage, but justice to point out when black people are at a disadvantage? It seems you have biases of your own. >Among successful people in Britain, clearly white males have great advantages That isn't so obvious to me. A vast portion of successful people in London, especially in the finance sector, are not white British. In fact, as a London-based tech worker, I have become completely accustomed to not seeing white British people in high places.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  > Why is it a race competition to point out when white people are at a disadvantage, but justice to point out when black people are at a disadvantage? It seems you have biases of your own. That's all part of the same old routine, almost out of a script. It's not hard to understand the difference if you want to. It's your business, but if I find myself following someone else's script - I'm human too; I can get caught up in things too - I look carefully at my reading and my reasoning.
  - cedws 3y ago
    Can you be more specific about what script I am following? You also didn't answer my question, you avoided it.

cedws 3y ago

>Assuming that is true (I'm not buying Wikipedia as a source) The sources are on the Wikipedia page itself. > This kind of undermines your comment, IMHO; it's a cliche of white racial solidarity and a race competition Why is it a race competition to point out when white people are at a disadvantage, but justice to point out when black people are at a disadvantage? It seems you have biases of your own. >Among successful people in Britain, clearly white males have great advantages That isn't so obvious to me. A vast portion of successful people in London, especially in the finance sector, are not white British. In fact, as a London-based tech worker, I have become completely accustomed to not seeing white British people in high places.

wolverine876 3y ago
> Why is it a race competition to point out when white people are at a disadvantage, but justice to point out when black people are at a disadvantage? It seems you have biases of your own. That's all part of the same old routine, almost out of a script. It's not hard to understand the difference if you want to. It's your business, but if I find myself following someone else's script - I'm human too; I can get caught up in things too - I look carefully at my reading and my reasoning.
- cedws 3y ago
  Can you be more specific about what script I am following? You also didn't answer my question, you avoided it.