> I just think it's ridiculous to even be discussing gender or color when hiring. I and many people would agree, and that is why we need DEI: Gender, race, eth

> I just think it's ridiculous to even be discussing gender or color when hiring. I and many people would agree, and that is why we need DEI: Gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. etc. have long been determinative in hiring, education, etc. The system we inherited is a DEI program for (mostly) heteronormative white guys - it advantages them over others. The data - the outcomes, if you look around - are overwhelming. They are determinative intentionally (especially now, when open prejudice is brazenly thrown around, hate crimes are multiplying, etc.), unintentionally (we're biased to hire people like us - we're just more comfortable, more trusting), and systematically (we hire from our social networks, which are segregated racially, etc., in large part because we inherited them from prior generations). For the last eight years I've heard much open prejudice - you can see it everywhere on social media, as an obvious example, and from some prominent political leaders. I remember when a college funding program was voted down in Congress, a white guy I was speaking to laughed and said 'no way was I paying for Blacks to go to college'. The same person told me there is no bias in hiring, education, etc.