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At least in tech, many companies have massive over-representation over Asian-American employees. Over-hiring cishet white males is not exactly a problem, in fac
by 8f2ab37a-ed6c 3y ago
At least in tech, many companies have massive over-representation over Asian-American employees. Over-hiring cishet white males is not exactly a problem, in fact in many roles they are under-represented compared to the national slice. See the BLS data.
E.g. 50% of NVIDIA's staff is AA. Third most valuable company in the world. That's about 10x the national average. Similarly with CISCO. You can keep digging these up.
What should we do? Systematically disadvantage and discriminate against Asians (part of the honorable and noble BIPOC coalition) to make sure to return to the national averages?
Of course this also touches upon the insanity of wanting company x to match a certain demographic split. Should they mirror the world's demographics? The US's demographics? California's demographics? South Bay's demographics? Santa Clara's demographics? Each one of those is different, and nobody seems to be able to agree on which we should use as the authoritative reference. If people are going to be shaming firms for not meeting a certain bar, can we at least agree what that bar should be?
And the wage gap is most likely not going away, men are women are not identical, they do not have the same impulses, incentives, timelines, or desires. They're not perfectly homogeneous interchangeable robots that behave the same way. It's entirely not surprising that we're seeing a gap. See the Uber study which was trying to find sexism to explain their drivers' 7% wage gap, only to find out that it ultimately boiled down to risk taking, hours worked, and more aggressive driving: https://web.stanford.edu/~diamondr/UberPayGap.pdf https://web.stanford.edu/~diamondr/UberPayGap.pdf - this is going to be true across all jobs.
Side note: the real "wage gap" is everybody vs mothers, not men vs women. If you want to advocate for making child rearing easier on mothers in the workplace, I'm fully in support.
Links:
https://www.globaldata.com/data-insights/technology--media-and-telecom/nvidia-workforce-diversity-and-inclusion-2091182/ https://www.globaldata.com/data-insights/technology--media-a...
https://www.cisco.com/c/m/en_us/about/csr/esg-hub/people/workforce-snapshot.html https://www.cisco.com/c/m/en_us/about/csr/esg-hub/people/wor...
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm
- giantg2 3y ago"over-hiring cishet white males is not exactly a problem, in fact in many roles they are under-represented compared to the national slice." I've been on teams where I'm the only white person. I've also been on teams where women outnumber the men (yes, even in tech).
- crackercrews 3y ago> I've been on teams where I'm the only white person. I've also been on teams where women outnumber the men (yes, even in tech). This isn't surprising at all. There are tons of asians in tech. And it's not uncommon for a couple devs to be on a team with lots of product or design people. I'm on one such team right now. The vast majority of this team is non-white women.
- idontpost 3y ago> What should we do? Systematically disadvantage and discriminate against Asians TBF that's exactly what Harvard did.