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The first time I visited "Love and Lemons" (the first non-sponsored link I got) I scrolled down looking for the actual recipie until I gave up. Right before yo

The first time I visited "Love and Lemons" (the first non-sponsored link I got) I scrolled down looking for the actual recipie until I gave up. Right before you made this comment I checked again and found the link to the recipie under the introduction as you described.

satvikpendem 3y ago
Most if not all recipe sites have a jump to recipe button, as de facto required by search engines.
- Fricken 3y ago
  Way too much fucking around.
  - Moldoteck 3y ago
    to click on a button?
    - kiicia 3y ago
      Yes, issue is why this button even exist instead of actual content being first and foremost
    - Fricken 3y ago
      Yes. I wasn't searching for a button, I was searching for a brownie recipie
    - al_borland 3y ago
      If the developer has to put that button on the site, they’ve already failed. They know it’s a poor design, and are trying to add features to point to that will absolve them, instead of fixing the core problem which wouldn’t force the user to look for a skip button. First time users of a site have no reason to look for a button like that, when the standard control of every other site for decades has been to scroll. I also just went to the site. When I went to tap the jump link, a modal popped up and blocked me. I dismissed that and tapped the link and it jumped me down the page to yet another request to sign up for a newsletter I don’t want. Now the top 3rd of the page is a video that started to auto-play; I had to tap to dismiss that. When I scrolled into the recipe section I got yet another modal trying to get me to sign up for an account so I can save the recipe… as if bookmarks don’t exist. I dismissed that, and now I can see the recipe. There are 3 ads in the middle of the recipe that break it up, some with more auto-playing video, and the scroll keeps readjusting itself based on ads and BS popping in and out. The bottom of the page also has an ad banner to dismiss, a bookmark icon that bounces occasional (which is certainly just another attempt to get me to create an account), links to other recipes are sliding in and out depending on the direction I scroll, to try to get me to go other places on the site… and to top it off, the Pinterest flag blocks content, depending on where I scroll, while sometimes being blocked itself by the aforementioned recipe slide-in. How can anyone defend all this? It’s horrible.
      - Moldoteck 3y ago
        I'm not defending it. It's a result of google's ranking system+ad system. All these descriptions are not for users to read, these are for google crawler to rank higher in search+to get more money from randomly placed ads. If you don't do this, chances are high your website will rank lower compared to someone that did this considering other factors are the same. I'm just saying that out of the all bad options, this option with a button is less bad, you skip all(most) unnecessary stuff with a button click
        al_borland 3y ago
        I think the main point is that all this trash is a problem Google created, and has no incentive to fix. The web would be a much better place with these practices weren’t the foundation of SEO.
- lupire 3y ago
  Is that really a ranking signal?

satvikpendem 3y ago

Most if not all recipe sites have a jump to recipe button, as de facto required by search engines.

Fricken 3y ago
Way too much fucking around.
- Moldoteck 3y ago
  to click on a button?
  - kiicia 3y ago
    Yes, issue is why this button even exist instead of actual content being first and foremost
  - Fricken 3y ago
    Yes. I wasn't searching for a button, I was searching for a brownie recipie
  - al_borland 3y ago
    If the developer has to put that button on the site, they’ve already failed. They know it’s a poor design, and are trying to add features to point to that will absolve them, instead of fixing the core problem which wouldn’t force the user to look for a skip button. First time users of a site have no reason to look for a button like that, when the standard control of every other site for decades has been to scroll. I also just went to the site. When I went to tap the jump link, a modal popped up and blocked me. I dismissed that and tapped the link and it jumped me down the page to yet another request to sign up for a newsletter I don’t want. Now the top 3rd of the page is a video that started to auto-play; I had to tap to dismiss that. When I scrolled into the recipe section I got yet another modal trying to get me to sign up for an account so I can save the recipe… as if bookmarks don’t exist. I dismissed that, and now I can see the recipe. There are 3 ads in the middle of the recipe that break it up, some with more auto-playing video, and the scroll keeps readjusting itself based on ads and BS popping in and out. The bottom of the page also has an ad banner to dismiss, a bookmark icon that bounces occasional (which is certainly just another attempt to get me to create an account), links to other recipes are sliding in and out depending on the direction I scroll, to try to get me to go other places on the site… and to top it off, the Pinterest flag blocks content, depending on where I scroll, while sometimes being blocked itself by the aforementioned recipe slide-in. How can anyone defend all this? It’s horrible.
    - Moldoteck 3y ago
      I'm not defending it. It's a result of google's ranking system+ad system. All these descriptions are not for users to read, these are for google crawler to rank higher in search+to get more money from randomly placed ads. If you don't do this, chances are high your website will rank lower compared to someone that did this considering other factors are the same. I'm just saying that out of the all bad options, this option with a button is less bad, you skip all(most) unnecessary stuff with a button click
      - al_borland 3y ago
        I think the main point is that all this trash is a problem Google created, and has no incentive to fix. The web would be a much better place with these practices weren’t the foundation of SEO.
lupire 3y ago
Is that really a ranking signal?