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Now, what has to be done not to get hacked ends up being answered as; AVs won't help, macs won't help, linux won't help, and use ipad? are we heading towards a

Now, what has to be done not to get hacked ends up being answered as; AVs won't help, macs won't help, linux won't help, and use ipad? are we heading towards a world where average users will end up in managed computing behind walls, and only some hackers and crackers will use open computing? is computing doomed to be a the black and white world of tyrannic rule vs. mob rule?

azakai 14y ago
> linux won't help ? He says Linux does help.
- diminish 14y ago
  but he says, only because it is not much common, and different distros are too diverse to justify an "investment"
  - azakai 14y ago
    Yes, the reasons are not very impressive ones, but nonetheless.
    - da_n 14y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
      - tetha 14y ago
        I don't see the relevance. Linux is no good target, because there are not many linux boxes compared to windows/mac and because 100 linux boxes might require 10 different ways to attack them, while 100 windows boxes might require 1 or 2. There is nothing obscure here, just diversity.
        holri 14y ago
        Diversity is always a good tacit in defeating pest. Learn from nature / biology. Monocultures are unstable and have to be superficially stabilized with great effort.
        diminish 14y ago
        similarly the guy says, he creates variations of the code in order to avoid detection. a world where hunter and the hunt all diversify.
  - jiggy2011 14y ago
    Surely Linux would be a good target? There are hundreds of thousands of Linux servers out there and they will have a lot of bandwidth / CPU etc.
    - alxv 14y ago
      But how do you get the malware on the servers? Most malware spread by tricking unsophisticated users into install them. It is much harder to trick a system administrator to so. Exploiting a vulnerable public facing service is the alternative. However, that option is out of reach to all but the most dedicated attackers, assuming you keep the system updated.

azakai 14y ago

> linux won't help ? He says Linux does help.

diminish 14y ago
but he says, only because it is not much common, and different distros are too diverse to justify an "investment"
- azakai 14y ago
  Yes, the reasons are not very impressive ones, but nonetheless.
  - da_n 14y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
    - tetha 14y ago
      I don't see the relevance. Linux is no good target, because there are not many linux boxes compared to windows/mac and because 100 linux boxes might require 10 different ways to attack them, while 100 windows boxes might require 1 or 2. There is nothing obscure here, just diversity.
      - holri 14y ago
        Diversity is always a good tacit in defeating pest. Learn from nature / biology. Monocultures are unstable and have to be superficially stabilized with great effort.
        diminish 14y ago
        similarly the guy says, he creates variations of the code in order to avoid detection. a world where hunter and the hunt all diversify.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  Surely Linux would be a good target? There are hundreds of thousands of Linux servers out there and they will have a lot of bandwidth / CPU etc.
  - alxv 14y ago
    But how do you get the malware on the servers? Most malware spread by tricking unsophisticated users into install them. It is much harder to trick a system administrator to so. Exploiting a vulnerable public facing service is the alternative. However, that option is out of reach to all but the most dedicated attackers, assuming you keep the system updated.