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> On the other side you argue for no restrictions, typically until the day before birth. No you really don't. If you look at all the bans on "partial birth ab
by lamontcg 3y ago
> On the other side you argue for no restrictions, typically until the day before birth.
No you really don't. If you look at all the bans on "partial birth abortion" they don't allow for any exceptions at all, including to save the life of the mother, even if there's no hope of delivering a living baby. The lack of exceptions that shackle medical professionals in emergency situations are what pro-choice people are against. Pretty much everyone who is pro-choice wants to get abortion done as quickly and as soon as possible. In Washington state, the limits are 10 weeks for prescribing mifepristone, and fetal viability for D&E abortions. Literally nobody is trying to increase the limits beyond viability if there's no risk to the mother. Everyone likes the idea of easy access to mifepristone to get it done earlier.
Go ahead and try to find Democratic politicians that actually want to go beyond that. You can probably find some very hard leftists who will say things like that on twitter, because you can find literally any idiot for any position on twitter. You won't find anyone saying that who actually needs to get elected.
Meanwhile you do see Republican politicians actually banning all kinds of abortion even in cases of rape, when the health and safety of the mother is at risk, and when the fetus will be still or never viable due to medical conditions, which is why people refer to them as "forced birth" positions: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/texas-abortion-ban-forced-birth-1234739485/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/texa...
It is really isn't two sides of this debate by politicians that are equally unreasonable. There is opposition to dropping viability (~23 weeks) down to something like 12 weeks because of the proof of the slippery slope where we can literally see by public statements and laws that are passed that Republicans don't respect exceptions for the health and safety of the mother and it is being done obviously in bad faith towards banning all abortion federally.
[ Ed: And that BBC article you cite has a lot of inflammatory quotes from Republicans CLAIMING it was about allowing abortion under all circumstances up until the day of delivery, when the actual quotes from Democrats are about fetal abnormalities and nonviable pregnancies which do not risk the life of the mother -- the mother forced to spend 5 days in the hospital with a child that was always going to be stillborn is a good example of where the Virginia law banned abortion in that case and why Democrats were trying to relax that language. You still can't provide a case of Democrats saying with their own words that they support entirely elective abortions with no medical justification right up until the day of birth. You can only find Republicans saying that they do, which isn't the same thing. ]