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You can check the charge cycle count on the battery, and have 14 days to return the device if it's a concern.

• AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  But how does that help? You don't expect it to be zero, you expect it to have 2-3 years worth of use on it because that's how old it is.
  • simonh 3y ago
    Apparently many of them are replaced. I found a thread on Reddit where a few people were saying they've bought refurbs and they often have 0 or 1 charge cycles on the batteries, indicating they were replacements.
    • AnthonyMouse 3y ago
      So you, what, keep buying them and sending them back until you get one with a new battery? Even if that works for one person, it obviously doesn't work at scale because soon the ones they'd have left in inventory would be the ones without new batteries.
      • simonh 3y ago
        Is a brand new battery really the minimum acceptable standard for a refurb? If got a refurb and it had 6 months usage on the battery for example, I think I’d be fine with that. 3 years no, but given brand new batteries is reportedly a common experience for refurb buyers of laptops a lot younger than that it seems unlikely that actually ever happens.
        • AnthonyMouse 3y ago
          > Is a brand new battery really the minimum acceptable standard for a refurb? Of course not, it's a refurb, but that's the point. You know it's a refurb and you know it's not going to last as long as a new one. That's why the refurb sells at a discount. > If got a refurb and it had 6 months usage on the battery for example, I think I’d be fine with that. That's the other issue though. You can see the number of charge cycles but not e.g. how many times it was left in a car in the summer sun.