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Culturally we import more and more things from the US. It used to be music and movies, now it's identity politics and cultural issues
by lm28469 3y ago
Culturally we import more and more things from the US. It used to be music and movies, now it's identity politics and cultural issues
- hef19898 3y ago[flagged]
- lm28469 3y agoTime to leave the online world and open a few books my friend... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_imperialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_imperialism
- hef19898 3y agoSo? Still not a colony, right? Imperialism =|= colonialism, get your definitions right before you call me "friend", so much politeness I expect, even on the internet.
- lm28469 3y agoIf you can call me stupid I think I can call you friend without triggering a politeness alert, pal http://sociologyindex.com/cultural_colonialism.htm#:~:text=Cultural%20colonialism%20is%20the%20desire,for%20their%20own%20economic%20reasons http://sociologyindex.com/cultural_colonialism.htm#:~:text=C....
- hef19898 3y agoI called the take stupid, not you. Small, but important difference.
- THX1137 3y agoIdentity politics being an "import from the United States" to Europe is a laugh. During WWII's genocide was committed on the basis of identity. More recently in the Former Yugoslavia a war was fought with significant focus on national or religious identity. That's not even to mention the rote national identity politics present in European nations for at least 200 years.
- lm28469 3y agoIt always existed, what didn't exist is using foreign events to attempt to explain local events. For example you can't analyse French racism issues using the American history of slavery, the end result might be somewhat similar but the historical path is widely different. You can't use the French abortion history to analyse the American one either
- hef19898 3y agoSure. But one can take the occasion, and the fact US pro-life activists are everywhere from Ireland to Africa, and leap-frog this whole thing and ammend the constitution. Like, you know, accepting social and political realities and doing the right thing for once.
- lm28469 3y agoIf you go that way you kind of have to admit laws have no power until they're made into the constitution, so everything you really care about and is threatened somewhere else in the world should be constitutionalised, that's not a small pandora's box. vasectomy ? lgbt rights ? same sex marriage ? unemployment benefits ? social security ? pensions ? where do you draw the line
- hef19898 3y agoFunny, a lot of the things you mentioned are either in the German Grindgesetz or enshrined in law. Partially as a reaction to movements trying to curb those laws. No pandoras box, just reality.
- lm28469 3y agoAbortion in France was already a law, for decades, nothing was added nor removed by adding it to the constitution, and no one in France was questioning that right besides fringe sub 1% parties So again, either the law is enough, and if it is enough it is enough for abortions, or it isn't enough for abortion, but in that case: which laws are constitution worthy and which aren't ?
- tangue 3y agoSome people call it imperialism, but for me US is more like an hegemon, a center which can impose its cultural norms to its periphery. But some people in France like to think that’s France is a US colony. I’m fine with that, because if it’s the case, french people are treated way better than the inhabitants of former french colonies.
- 0xAFFFF 3y agoAbortion rights is absolutely not a cultural issue import from the US. While recent development about abortion rights in the US have sparked concern about those rights in France, they've been an ongoing fight for decades.