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Read the comment again - he pays for one seat, he sleeps across 3 or 4.

lillecarl 3y ago
If you're on a flight and there's a free space next to you, would you say you're wrong if you occupy it by stretching your legs?
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  sure. once you take off, you're not getting more people on until you land. by that logic, you have until the next stop, and then any claim you have to a seat is forfeit.
ithkuil 3y ago
ah that's what you meant well I'm pretty sure if those seats were taken he'd sleep in its own seat. Perhaps his equation would change if had to sleep upright every night, but still, there is nothing illegal
_visgean 3y ago
if they are empty what is the deal? If somebody books the ticket he will be asked to move to his seat.
landgenoot 3y ago
You are not paying for the seat, but for the journey. Go ahead and try to get a refund when you don't have a seat on a crowded train.
- jstummbillig 3y ago
  While that is true (if you don't have a seat reservation) you are prohibited from occupying more than one seat per DB ToS. "Each passenger is only allowed to occupy one seat [...] Passengers who behave contrary to the above regulations, ignore the instructions of employees or otherwise pose a threat to safety and order can be excluded from transport or further transport without entitlement to reimbursement of the fare and baggage price." Translated from https://assets.static-bahn.de/dam/jcr:82c5f579-c786-41dc-abff-ecc1af95f5c6/Bef%C3%B6rderungsbedingungen%20der%20DB%20AG%20-%20Stand%2001.03.2024.pdf https://assets.static-bahn.de/dam/jcr:82c5f579-c786-41dc-abf... (Page 20, 6.1)
  - truculent 3y ago
    Is he really occupying more than one seat if there’s nobody else there to take the remainder?
    - Cheer2171 3y ago
      Literally yes he is. You can argue about whether this should be enforced, but by the text of the contract, it is not allowed.
      - rusk 3y ago
        Fair use IMHO IANAL
        6510 3y ago
        You can use as many as you like until instructed not to.
        rusk 3y ago
        If you weren’t meant to do it they’d have countermeasures to prevent you
    - myk9001 3y ago
      Does a falling tree in a forest make a sound if there's no one around to hear it.
hobofan 3y ago
Read the comment again > with the low occupancy of the train, this is not a problem whatsoever
SergeAx 3y ago
He paid once for an unlimited journey ticket. He gets either a seat for a day ride or a couch for a night journey.

If you're on a flight and there's a free space next to you, would you say you're wrong if you occupy it by stretching your legs?

red-iron-pine 3y ago
sure. once you take off, you're not getting more people on until you land. by that logic, you have until the next stop, and then any claim you have to a seat is forfeit.

ithkuil 3y ago

ah that's what you meant well I'm pretty sure if those seats were taken he'd sleep in its own seat. Perhaps his equation would change if had to sleep upright every night, but still, there is nothing illegal

_visgean 3y ago

if they are empty what is the deal? If somebody books the ticket he will be asked to move to his seat.

landgenoot 3y ago

You are not paying for the seat, but for the journey. Go ahead and try to get a refund when you don't have a seat on a crowded train.

jstummbillig 3y ago
While that is true (if you don't have a seat reservation) you are prohibited from occupying more than one seat per DB ToS. "Each passenger is only allowed to occupy one seat [...] Passengers who behave contrary to the above regulations, ignore the instructions of employees or otherwise pose a threat to safety and order can be excluded from transport or further transport without entitlement to reimbursement of the fare and baggage price." Translated from https://assets.static-bahn.de/dam/jcr:82c5f579-c786-41dc-abff-ecc1af95f5c6/Bef%C3%B6rderungsbedingungen%20der%20DB%20AG%20-%20Stand%2001.03.2024.pdf https://assets.static-bahn.de/dam/jcr:82c5f579-c786-41dc-abf... (Page 20, 6.1)
- truculent 3y ago
  Is he really occupying more than one seat if there’s nobody else there to take the remainder?
  - Cheer2171 3y ago
    Literally yes he is. You can argue about whether this should be enforced, but by the text of the contract, it is not allowed.
    - rusk 3y ago
      Fair use IMHO IANAL
      - 6510 3y ago
        You can use as many as you like until instructed not to.
        rusk 3y ago
        If you weren’t meant to do it they’d have countermeasures to prevent you
  - myk9001 3y ago
    Does a falling tree in a forest make a sound if there's no one around to hear it.

hobofan 3y ago

Read the comment again > with the low occupancy of the train, this is not a problem whatsoever

SergeAx 3y ago

He paid once for an unlimited journey ticket. He gets either a seat for a day ride or a couch for a night journey.