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If I was his age a $2.5K on a years interrail ticket for unlimited travel across Europe (admittedly 2nd class and there may seat reservation charges) would be v

If I was his age a $2.5K on a years interrail ticket for unlimited travel across Europe (admittedly 2nd class and there may seat reservation charges) would be very tempting https://www.eurail.com/en https://www.eurail.com/en

jack_riminton 3y ago
When I was interrailing I'd try and do some across Europe night trains as it meant I saved on hostel costs and I'd wake up somewhere new. The choices are somewhat limited though
- justincormack 3y ago
  Getting better again slowly after a bad period.
  - mike_hock 3y ago
    That's what she says every month.
  - seabass-labrax 3y ago
    To what are you referring? The Interrail/Eurail scheme getting better again after a bad period?
    - justincormack 3y ago
      Sleeper trains getting better, after most were discountinued. SOme more have started up recently.
- bergie 3y ago
  We did that a lot as well. Night trains are the closest mankind has to teleportation. Hop on a train in Berlin, have a beer, sleep, wake up in the centre Paris or Rome with a coffee and a croissant.
  - mike_hock 3y ago
    The closest we have to teleportation is airplanes (i.e. shortest travel time). Sleeper trains are more like cryostasis ships. The journey takes forever, but you don't notice.
interludead 3y ago
It is sounds tempting but me personally could not imagine a life like that even though it gives him sence of freedom..
- madaxe_again 3y ago
  You’d be amazed what you can normalize, and how quickly, when you just start doing something, or living in a certain way. I’ve lived in various different situations that seem in retrospect intolerable, but at the time were perfectly ok - for instance, in the early days of bootstrapping, I didn’t bother with a bed or a home, I just slept on the floor by my desk at the office, using my jacket as a pillow. It became normal frighteningly quickly - to the extent that when I moved into my own place a few years later, I needed cajoling to buy a mattress at the very least - things had just ceased to have a hold on me, and a bed honestly seemed like an extravagance, unnecessary, just something I’d have to move again at some point down the road. I don’t live such a Spartan extreme now, by any stretch of the imagination - but some traces of that experience linger - but either way my point was that that became very normal for me in a matter of weeks or months. Coming back to a more normal way of life was a strange sensation. Honestly, I can understand how homelessness works.
4gotunameagain 3y ago
But without beds in night trains, I would imagine it would either get very costly or very tiring very soon
dav_Oz 3y ago
On October he did began to incorporate the Global Pass (3 months) which got him as far as Istanbul and Ankara and high up north as Kiruna in Sweden, Lapland.[0] Seems a very cautious guy, as he was booking a night train from Budapest to Bucharest, apparently he was warned at the counter by an employee which made him very uneasy. Reminds of the story of that TEDx talk.[1] He is clearly enjoying it so I hope the positive experiences encourage him to even go beyond Europe, like to India ;) [2] [0]https://leben-im-zug.de/mein-jahresrueckblick-2023/ https://leben-im-zug.de/mein-jahresrueckblick-2023/ [1]https://youtu.be/R7vmHGAshi8?&t=778 https://youtu.be/R7vmHGAshi8?&t=778 [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail
- teddyh 3y ago
  > high up north as Kiruna in Sweden His northenmost point seems to have been Narvik (across the border in Norway). From what I can tell, that’s almost 70km (more than 40 miles) north of Kiruna.
  - dav_Oz 3y ago
    Thanks for the correction, I remembered it wrong. From his blog: >[...]Eine ganz besondere Zugfahrt zum nördlichsten Bahnhof Europas, Narvik. >A very special train journey to the northernmost railroad station in Europe, Narvik. [0] [0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narvik_Station https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narvik_Station

jack_riminton 3y ago

When I was interrailing I'd try and do some across Europe night trains as it meant I saved on hostel costs and I'd wake up somewhere new. The choices are somewhat limited though

justincormack 3y ago
Getting better again slowly after a bad period.
- mike_hock 3y ago
  That's what she says every month.
- seabass-labrax 3y ago
  To what are you referring? The Interrail/Eurail scheme getting better again after a bad period?
  - justincormack 3y ago
    Sleeper trains getting better, after most were discountinued. SOme more have started up recently.
bergie 3y ago
We did that a lot as well. Night trains are the closest mankind has to teleportation. Hop on a train in Berlin, have a beer, sleep, wake up in the centre Paris or Rome with a coffee and a croissant.
- mike_hock 3y ago
  The closest we have to teleportation is airplanes (i.e. shortest travel time). Sleeper trains are more like cryostasis ships. The journey takes forever, but you don't notice.

interludead 3y ago

It is sounds tempting but me personally could not imagine a life like that even though it gives him sence of freedom..

madaxe_again 3y ago
You’d be amazed what you can normalize, and how quickly, when you just start doing something, or living in a certain way. I’ve lived in various different situations that seem in retrospect intolerable, but at the time were perfectly ok - for instance, in the early days of bootstrapping, I didn’t bother with a bed or a home, I just slept on the floor by my desk at the office, using my jacket as a pillow. It became normal frighteningly quickly - to the extent that when I moved into my own place a few years later, I needed cajoling to buy a mattress at the very least - things had just ceased to have a hold on me, and a bed honestly seemed like an extravagance, unnecessary, just something I’d have to move again at some point down the road. I don’t live such a Spartan extreme now, by any stretch of the imagination - but some traces of that experience linger - but either way my point was that that became very normal for me in a matter of weeks or months. Coming back to a more normal way of life was a strange sensation. Honestly, I can understand how homelessness works.

4gotunameagain 3y ago

But without beds in night trains, I would imagine it would either get very costly or very tiring very soon

dav_Oz 3y ago

On October he did began to incorporate the Global Pass (3 months) which got him as far as Istanbul and Ankara and high up north as Kiruna in Sweden, Lapland.[0] Seems a very cautious guy, as he was booking a night train from Budapest to Bucharest, apparently he was warned at the counter by an employee which made him very uneasy. Reminds of the story of that TEDx talk.[1] He is clearly enjoying it so I hope the positive experiences encourage him to even go beyond Europe, like to India ;) [2] [0]https://leben-im-zug.de/mein-jahresrueckblick-2023/ https://leben-im-zug.de/mein-jahresrueckblick-2023/ [1]https://youtu.be/R7vmHGAshi8?&t=778 https://youtu.be/R7vmHGAshi8?&t=778 [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail

teddyh 3y ago
> high up north as Kiruna in Sweden His northenmost point seems to have been Narvik (across the border in Norway). From what I can tell, that’s almost 70km (more than 40 miles) north of Kiruna.
- dav_Oz 3y ago
  Thanks for the correction, I remembered it wrong. From his blog: >[...]Eine ganz besondere Zugfahrt zum nördlichsten Bahnhof Europas, Narvik. >A very special train journey to the northernmost railroad station in Europe, Narvik. [0] [0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narvik_Station https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narvik_Station