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How about the voice commands for these? ("Wipers 1-slash-4"). I just got my first Tesla, MYLR, and even though it's annoying not having the stalks given the rai

How about the voice commands for these? ("Wipers 1-slash-4"). I just got my first Tesla, MYLR, and even though it's annoying not having the stalks given the rain sensor is absolute junk the voice command seems to work 98% of the time. The voice command is activated from a button on the steering wheel - it may require a network connection though. I haven't tried the fog lights, it may not have a command, but there's apparently a shortcut with the left stalk where you pull or push and a quick light menu comes up - 2 clicks instead of 1 but seems reasonable - I could never find my fog lights quickly enough on most of my previous cars anyway. My only concern with the wipers would be for an emergency, ie the street washers drive by and suddenly I have no visibility, but for those situations I have the button on the left stalk that fires the wipers on demand.

Hamuko 3y ago
Voice commands are absolutely crap and are never ever a substitute for actual controls. The device can't either hear you, mishears you, doesn't speak your language, doesn't understand your accent, doesn't understand your dialect, doesn't like the tone of your voice or just doesn't like your particular combination of words.
eldaisfish 3y ago
why are so many people in the tech world obsessed with voice controls? Seriously, this is imperfect at best and definitely a downgrade from a physical button. What is with this obsession?
- ojosilva 3y ago
  Well, the OP says: > almost every vehicle-maker moving key controls onto central touchscreens, obliging drivers to take their eyes off the road and raising the risk of distraction crashes The concept of a physical button is the mother of all distractions. The touchscreen is just the physical button problem moved somewhere else. Maybe today voice commands are not state of the art, or maybe, holy ball and chain batman, not even close to being the solution either, but I hope in the future nobody remembers there used to be cars with 113 physical buttons: https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera/976009-too-many-buttons.html https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera/976009-too-many-buttons...
CorrectHorseBat 3y ago
I hate the voice commands. Half of the time it says it doesn't understand me, or it does something completely different "turn or rear window defrost" -> turn heat to high!. Fog lights it does understand, but it's "not yet implemented", whatever that means. > pull or push and a quick light menu comes up - 2 clicks Yeah, so I have to flash someone in front of me to turn on my fog lights, great. And don't forget to turn off automatic lights because it will turn off the fog together with the other lights but not turn them back on. Apart from that I really like the car, just put a few more functions on the stalks and it would be a great car.

Hamuko 3y ago

Voice commands are absolutely crap and are never ever a substitute for actual controls. The device can't either hear you, mishears you, doesn't speak your language, doesn't understand your accent, doesn't understand your dialect, doesn't like the tone of your voice or just doesn't like your particular combination of words.

eldaisfish 3y ago

why are so many people in the tech world obsessed with voice controls? Seriously, this is imperfect at best and definitely a downgrade from a physical button. What is with this obsession?

ojosilva 3y ago
Well, the OP says: > almost every vehicle-maker moving key controls onto central touchscreens, obliging drivers to take their eyes off the road and raising the risk of distraction crashes The concept of a physical button is the mother of all distractions. The touchscreen is just the physical button problem moved somewhere else. Maybe today voice commands are not state of the art, or maybe, holy ball and chain batman, not even close to being the solution either, but I hope in the future nobody remembers there used to be cars with 113 physical buttons: https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera/976009-too-many-buttons.html https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera/976009-too-many-buttons...

CorrectHorseBat 3y ago

I hate the voice commands. Half of the time it says it doesn't understand me, or it does something completely different "turn or rear window defrost" -> turn heat to high!. Fog lights it does understand, but it's "not yet implemented", whatever that means. > pull or push and a quick light menu comes up - 2 clicks Yeah, so I have to flash someone in front of me to turn on my fog lights, great. And don't forget to turn off automatic lights because it will turn off the fog together with the other lights but not turn them back on. Apart from that I really like the car, just put a few more functions on the stalks and it would be a great car.