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The USA hasn't been involved in South American politics since the 60s/70s. The political problems there now are all of their own making. The Middle East is an

The USA hasn't been involved in South American politics since the 60s/70s. The political problems there now are all of their own making. The Middle East is an unstable place. Not due to the USA. Countries that have become liberal free market democracies have benefitted tremendously in living standards. I wouldn't describe Sweden, Singapore or Poland "shackled" to the USA. We can absolutely see the positive impact on the USA around the world: - North Korea (not US aligned) vs South Korea. - Ukraine (invaded by Russia) vs Baltic countries. - Venezuela (Socialist) Vs Chile (a liberal democracy). Lots of idiots have this juvenile "blame everything on the USA" mentality. I suppose because it's easier than doing any critical thinking.

defrost 3y ago
> The USA hasn't been involved in South American politics since the 60s/70s. That really does come across as rose coloured blinders. The Iran–Contra affair was the 1980s. More recently: In what The New York Times described as "Washington’s most overt attempts in decades to carry out regime change in Latin America", the administration of President Donald Trump made an attempt of regime change in an effort to remove President Nicolás Maduro from office during the Venezuelan presidential crisis ... There's more if you care to look.
- matthewfelgate 3y ago
  The Middle East is an unstable place. Not due to the USA. Countries that have become liberal free market democracies have benefitted tremendously in living standards. I wouldn't describe Sweden, Singapore or Poland "shackled" to the USA. We can absolutely see the positive impact on the USA around the world: - North Korea (not US aligned) vs South Korea. - Ukraine (invaded by Russia) vs Baltic countries. - Venezuela (Socialist) Vs Chile (a liberal democracy).
  - defrost 3y ago
    The claim being addressed here by myself though was that "the US hasn't meddled with South America since the 60's|70's". Not only is that false it's alsdo clear that "the positive impact on the USA around the world" hasn't manifested itself within the immediate umbrella of the Monroe Doctrine. Nor would many argue that the US sets a great example of a liberal free market democracy, it doesn't rank well on things that matter to people against others.
    - matthewfelgate 3y ago
      You've failed to respond to any of my points.

defrost 3y ago

> The USA hasn't been involved in South American politics since the 60s/70s. That really does come across as rose coloured blinders. The Iran–Contra affair was the 1980s. More recently: In what The New York Times described as "Washington’s most overt attempts in decades to carry out regime change in Latin America", the administration of President Donald Trump made an attempt of regime change in an effort to remove President Nicolás Maduro from office during the Venezuelan presidential crisis ... There's more if you care to look.

matthewfelgate 3y ago
The Middle East is an unstable place. Not due to the USA. Countries that have become liberal free market democracies have benefitted tremendously in living standards. I wouldn't describe Sweden, Singapore or Poland "shackled" to the USA. We can absolutely see the positive impact on the USA around the world: - North Korea (not US aligned) vs South Korea. - Ukraine (invaded by Russia) vs Baltic countries. - Venezuela (Socialist) Vs Chile (a liberal democracy).
- defrost 3y ago
  The claim being addressed here by myself though was that "the US hasn't meddled with South America since the 60's|70's". Not only is that false it's alsdo clear that "the positive impact on the USA around the world" hasn't manifested itself within the immediate umbrella of the Monroe Doctrine. Nor would many argue that the US sets a great example of a liberal free market democracy, it doesn't rank well on things that matter to people against others.
  - matthewfelgate 3y ago
    You've failed to respond to any of my points.