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Superficial and pointless article. Starts off ok but drives no point whatsoever. Just list all the UPFs and known digestive, mental, metabolic, and quality of l

Superficial and pointless article. Starts off ok but drives no point whatsoever. Just list all the UPFs and known digestive, mental, metabolic, and quality of life implications. I miss the fat and salt manifestos of the old days. And by miss I mean, those that explain how fat and salt is actually needed and sugar, milk, and wheat not so much.

Paul-Craft 3y ago
I guess you didn't click through to any of the links. Here, let me help you: * Ultra-processed food exposure and adverse health outcomes: umbrella review of epidemiological meta-analyses (2024): https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/384/bmj-2023-077310.full.pdf https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/384/bmj-2023-077310.full.pdf * New study finds poor diet kills more people globally than tobacco and high blood pressure(2019): https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-releases/new-study-finds-poor-diet-kills-more-people-globally-tobacco-and https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-release... * Health effects of dietary risks in 195 countries, 1990–2017: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2017 (2019): https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2819%2930041-8 https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2819... * Processing the evidence to evaluate mechanisms, costs and future solutions (editorial, 2023): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/nbu.12623 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/nbu.12623 * Speed limits: the effects of industrial food processing and food texture on daily energy intake and eating behaviour in healthy adults (2023): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-023-03202-z https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-023-03202-z * Ultra-processed foods and food additives in gut health and disease (2024): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41575-024-00893-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41575-024-00893-5 I eagerly await your sparkling insights on the subject.
- ta8645 3y ago
  Taking the time to offer direct links was definitely helpful; but the added snark, detracts: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - Paul-Craft 3y ago
    Shallow dismissals annoy me: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ta8645 3y ago
      More snark instead of owning your own failing. I didn't make a shallow dismissal. I praised what you did correctly, and gently reminded you to help keep this site from degrading.
      - Paul-Craft 3y ago
        So sorry for not immediately humbling myself before you. Don't read my comments, then. There are browser extensions you can use to help you with this. I do love how you assumed I was talking about you in my reply, though. Sounds like something you should work on. Good day.
        ta8645 3y ago
        I sent an innocuous and gentle reminder that your snark was out of line. It doesn't matter what anyone else did, it didn't give you the right to break the rules. In the future, please just watch the snark, and help make this site a better place. Good day.
Tarq0n 3y ago
UPF isn't about what nutrients are in the food, it's about what optimizing for manufacturing process and hyper-palatability moderates the effects the food has in our bodies.

Paul-Craft 3y ago

I guess you didn't click through to any of the links. Here, let me help you: * Ultra-processed food exposure and adverse health outcomes: umbrella review of epidemiological meta-analyses (2024): https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/384/bmj-2023-077310.full.pdf https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/384/bmj-2023-077310.full.pdf * New study finds poor diet kills more people globally than tobacco and high blood pressure(2019): https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-releases/new-study-finds-poor-diet-kills-more-people-globally-tobacco-and https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-release... * Health effects of dietary risks in 195 countries, 1990–2017: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2017 (2019): https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2819%2930041-8 https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2819... * Processing the evidence to evaluate mechanisms, costs and future solutions (editorial, 2023): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/nbu.12623 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/nbu.12623 * Speed limits: the effects of industrial food processing and food texture on daily energy intake and eating behaviour in healthy adults (2023): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-023-03202-z https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-023-03202-z * Ultra-processed foods and food additives in gut health and disease (2024): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41575-024-00893-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41575-024-00893-5 I eagerly await your sparkling insights on the subject.

ta8645 3y ago
Taking the time to offer direct links was definitely helpful; but the added snark, detracts: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Paul-Craft 3y ago
  Shallow dismissals annoy me: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ta8645 3y ago
    More snark instead of owning your own failing. I didn't make a shallow dismissal. I praised what you did correctly, and gently reminded you to help keep this site from degrading.
    - Paul-Craft 3y ago
      So sorry for not immediately humbling myself before you. Don't read my comments, then. There are browser extensions you can use to help you with this. I do love how you assumed I was talking about you in my reply, though. Sounds like something you should work on. Good day.
      - ta8645 3y ago
        I sent an innocuous and gentle reminder that your snark was out of line. It doesn't matter what anyone else did, it didn't give you the right to break the rules. In the future, please just watch the snark, and help make this site a better place. Good day.

Tarq0n 3y ago

UPF isn't about what nutrients are in the food, it's about what optimizing for manufacturing process and hyper-palatability moderates the effects the food has in our bodies.