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Curiously, they don't mention why the man has received 217 Covid vaccines, except for "private reasons".
by canadiantim 3y ago
Curiously, they don't mention why the man has received 217 Covid vaccines, except for "private reasons".
- mikeyouse 3y agoThe Lancet link has slightly more detail - sounds like he's a bit crazy and they were investigating him because they thought there was fraud happening but then they realized he was just 'hypervaccinated' and so they didn't file charges and enrolled him in this study; > Here, we report on a 62-year-old male hypervaccinated individual from Magdeburg, Germany (HIM), who deliberately and for private reasons received 217 vaccinations against SARS-CoV-2 within a period of 29 months (figure A; appendix 1 tab 1). HIM's hypervaccination occurred outside of a clinical study context and against national vaccination recommendations. Evidence for 130 vaccinations in a 9 month period was collected by the public prosecutor of Magdeburg, Germany, who opened an investigation of this case with the allegation of fraud, but criminal charges were not filed. 108 vaccinations are individually recorded and partly overlap with the total of 130 prosecutor-confirmed vaccinations (appendix 2 p 12). To investigate the immunological consequences of hypervaccination in this unique situation, we submitted an analysis proposal to HIM via the public prosecutor. HIM then actively and voluntarily consented to provide medical information and donate blood and saliva. This procedure was approved by the local Ethics Committee of the University Hospital of Erlangen, Germany. Throughout the entire hypervaccination schedule HIM did not report any vaccination-related side effects. From November 2019, to October 2023, 62 routine clinical chemistry parameters showed no abnormalities attributable to hypervaccination (appendix 1 tab 2). Furthermore, HIM had no signs of a past SARS-CoV-2 infection, as indicated by repeatedly negative SARS-CoV-2 antigen tests, PCRs and nucleocapsid serology (figure A; appendix 1 tab 1). https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...
- andrewflnr 3y agoI don't know, maybe they just gave him a break on the charges in exchange for cooperating with the study. You know the scientists would try to pull something like that to study a unique case if at all possible, and I know I would "actively and voluntarily consent" to that if my alternative was jail.
- mikeyouse 3y agoThat'd be super unethical and they point out it passed their IRB so that's unlikely to have been the case. I believe their system is like the US where the docs/pharmacies are reimbursed for each dose given so the prosecutors likely were doing basic fraud detection and saw that 100+ doses were associated with the same person which lead them to investigate -- it's probably not illegal to get hundreds of vaccinations hence the lack of charges and it just so happened to have provided an interesting data point for researchers.
- andrewflnr 3y agoFair point about the ethics angle. I guess. Personally I think it's morally fine (clearly a win-win for him and society) but it does look like coercion and there's a case for avoiding "even the appearance of evil"...
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- petesergeant 3y ago> 62-year-male … for private reasons Without being crass, I can definitely see a world in which someone showing up to do something they know they’re not meant to do, interacting with a nurse (likely female, likely in a uniform), and getting a small but manageable amount of pain being a fetish thing.
- NoGravitas 3y agoYou're getting downvoted for this, but there were people who actually developed a fetish for intranasal stimulation back when covid testing was still common (and presumably many more who joked about it - see "nussy").
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- lapcat 3y agoApparently he was selling forged vaccination passports: https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-germany-europe-document-forgery-120b2c4db8aa71ffeadf766a9829910b https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-germany-europe-docum...
- kiba 3y agoCareful reading suggested he was arrested under suspicion of selling vaccine cards, not that he actually sold vaccine cards.
- lapcat 3y ago"Police confiscated several blank vaccination cards from him and initiated criminal proceedings." What are you trying to say? (1) He wasn't actually trying to selling vaccine cards? (2) He was trying to selling vaccine cards but hadn't yet succeeded? Given the evidence — the confiscated cards and the sheer number of shots already administered — both (1) and (2) seem like absurd presuppositions. We're not a jury, and this is not a trial. We can't send him to jail, but we can say he's clearly guilty as hell.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoIt sounds like he just wanted to get a lot of vaccinations and used blank cards to not arouse suspicion from the person administering the vaccine and stamping the card.
- InSteady 3y agoThis is such a no brainer. The article states he has official records of 134 vaccinations. They wont just keep stamping the same card endlessly until it is completely covered. How else is he going to accomplish this absurd undertaking but to have access to a bunch of official vaccination documents? It's not outside the realm of possibility that he was also selling them, but I feel like Occam and Hanlon both agree that unless there is direct evidence, he's probably not some criminal mastermind getting rich. He's just a random person with either a fetish or something to prove.
- schoen 3y agoMost explanations I can think of would involve an anxiety, delusional, memory, or cognitive disorder. Or an art project, scientific self-experimentation, or an deliberate effort to experience an adverse reaction in order to qualify for a vaccine injury payment? [ Edit: Wow, I didn't even think of the fraud possibility mentioned in other comments. :-( :-( In some places maybe people are also directly paid to receive vaccines? ] I wonder if there's anyone for whom 217 total lifetime vaccine doses (cumulative across various vaccines) would be considered medically indicated. Maybe if you got childhood vaccines on an inefficient schedule, moved around between countries with different recommendations, got a bunch of travel or special occupational hazard or special exposure risk immunizations, eventually got multi-dose old age vaccine series, and also got the annual flu shot every year? Oh, I guess if you go to both the northern and the southern hemisphere every year, you could have two different annual flu shots indicated (since the hemispheres have different flu shot formulations). I think that could do it when combined with the other stuff.
- triceratops 3y agoHe read Bruce Lee's adage about the man who practices one kick 5000 times. /s