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Ubicloud: Open, Free, and Portable Cloud

74 points by alexzeitler 3y ago

sss111 3y ago
Are there any inherent advantages to keeping cloud technologies closed source? Google benefited tremendously from making Kubernetes open source.
- mickael-kerjean 3y ago
  vendor lockin and price control, the recent vmware move is the perfect example of what can happen
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
I'm not following. Is this like kubernetes where you can run it on your own hardware or pay for it As A Service? Is it open source? (It contrasts most clouds as "But they are closed source" but I'm not seeing code?) Edit: Docs point to https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud which is marked AGPL and appears to have self hosting instructions. Would have been nice to have that up front but /shrug
- dartos 3y ago
  In an age before kubernetes, we would rent servers and VMs individually. Cloud providers rented out this compute on top of their infrastructure. This seems to provide a similar abstraction on top of bare metal, kind of like openstack.
- whalesalad 3y ago
  More like openstack
- umur 3y ago
  Ubicloud cofounder here, thanks for the question! You can think of Ubicloud as software that takes bare metal servers as its input, and provides VMs and other cloud infrastructure services as its output. You can self-host Ubicloud on your own hardware, or use it as a managed service. Comments below are on point: Compared to OpenStack, Ubicloud is simpler, comes with a managed service that you can use in minutes (vs days/weeks), and provides more services such as managed databases. Compared to Kubernetes, Ubicloud covers layers both above and below Kubernetes. For example, running K8s on AWS/Azure/GCP depends on having VMs where the pods can run on. Similarly, running a managed database service on K8s requires much more than the basic K8s service itself. Put differently, all major cloud providers have proprietary software similar in purpose to Ubicloud, which they use to provide their core cloud services. Using AWS as an example, services like EC2, RDS for managed Postgres, or EKS for managed Kubernetes, all run on this type of software. Ubicloud makes this software open source, and allows it to run anywhere--not just on AWS data centers.
  - yigitkonur35 3y ago
    Sounds like a great value for those who don’t want to involve with k8s. As you integrate with Hetzner and their new billing system (not charging monthly anymore) is making your service more useful.
  - smartbit 3y ago
    Ubicloud's competition has support for cluster-api [0] [1]. Any plans to add Ubicloud? [0] https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/user/quick-start.html#install-kubevirt-on-the-kind-cluster#initialization-for-common-providers https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/user/quick-start.html#instal... [1] https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/image-builder/tree/main/images/capi/packer https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/image-builder/tree/main/i...
Endy 3y ago
From a branding standpoint, when I saw the name, my first thought is that this was a cloud solution from Ubisoft. I'm not sure if that's a positive.
- everyone 3y ago
  Same, and for me that's an extremely negative association.
- magnat 3y ago
  Either that or Ubiquiti. Don't know which is worse.
- umur 3y ago
  Our naming intent is for a "ubiquitous" cloud, one that can run anywhere -- no affliations! :)
- hervem 3y ago
  I directly thought about G-Core :/
waskip 3y ago
$35 per month for a VPS with 2vCPU and 8GB RAM seems steep.
- Saris 3y ago
  I think they might be using Hetzner VPS's with dedicated CPU instead of the general ones that are priced more typically.

74 points by alexzeitler 3y ago

Are there any inherent advantages to keeping cloud technologies closed source? Google benefited tremendously from making Kubernetes open source.

mickael-kerjean 3y ago
vendor lockin and price control, the recent vmware move is the perfect example of what can happen

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

I'm not following. Is this like kubernetes where you can run it on your own hardware or pay for it As A Service? Is it open source? (It contrasts most clouds as "But they are closed source" but I'm not seeing code?) Edit: Docs point to https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud https://github.com/ubicloud/ubicloud which is marked AGPL and appears to have self hosting instructions. Would have been nice to have that up front but /shrug

dartos 3y ago
In an age before kubernetes, we would rent servers and VMs individually. Cloud providers rented out this compute on top of their infrastructure. This seems to provide a similar abstraction on top of bare metal, kind of like openstack.
whalesalad 3y ago
More like openstack
umur 3y ago
Ubicloud cofounder here, thanks for the question! You can think of Ubicloud as software that takes bare metal servers as its input, and provides VMs and other cloud infrastructure services as its output. You can self-host Ubicloud on your own hardware, or use it as a managed service. Comments below are on point: Compared to OpenStack, Ubicloud is simpler, comes with a managed service that you can use in minutes (vs days/weeks), and provides more services such as managed databases. Compared to Kubernetes, Ubicloud covers layers both above and below Kubernetes. For example, running K8s on AWS/Azure/GCP depends on having VMs where the pods can run on. Similarly, running a managed database service on K8s requires much more than the basic K8s service itself. Put differently, all major cloud providers have proprietary software similar in purpose to Ubicloud, which they use to provide their core cloud services. Using AWS as an example, services like EC2, RDS for managed Postgres, or EKS for managed Kubernetes, all run on this type of software. Ubicloud makes this software open source, and allows it to run anywhere--not just on AWS data centers.
- yigitkonur35 3y ago
  Sounds like a great value for those who don’t want to involve with k8s. As you integrate with Hetzner and their new billing system (not charging monthly anymore) is making your service more useful.
- smartbit 3y ago
  Ubicloud's competition has support for cluster-api [0] [1]. Any plans to add Ubicloud? [0] https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/user/quick-start.html#install-kubevirt-on-the-kind-cluster#initialization-for-common-providers https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/user/quick-start.html#instal... [1] https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/image-builder/tree/main/images/capi/packer https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/image-builder/tree/main/i...

Endy 3y ago

From a branding standpoint, when I saw the name, my first thought is that this was a cloud solution from Ubisoft. I'm not sure if that's a positive.

everyone 3y ago
Same, and for me that's an extremely negative association.
magnat 3y ago
Either that or Ubiquiti. Don't know which is worse.
umur 3y ago
Our naming intent is for a "ubiquitous" cloud, one that can run anywhere -- no affliations! :)
hervem 3y ago
I directly thought about G-Core :/

waskip 3y ago

$35 per month for a VPS with 2vCPU and 8GB RAM seems steep.

Saris 3y ago
I think they might be using Hetzner VPS's with dedicated CPU instead of the general ones that are priced more typically.