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Not sure how flying a plane while it's essentially doing nothing is helpful to anyone. If anything airline pilots should be taught to troubleshoot a plane more
by dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
Not sure how flying a plane while it's essentially doing nothing is helpful to anyone.
If anything airline pilots should be taught to troubleshoot a plane more and fly it less. Maybe if the First Officer understood the correct way to exit a high altitude stall and that applying inputs to his control cancelled out the other pilot's inputs the plane likely would not have crashed.
A big plane in a normal condition doesn't require much attention and can fly itself. Humans are best at exceptional circumstances (in theory) and computers best at doing the boring and tedious work.
Flight hours in this context are pretty meaningless, they should be judged by percentage of abnormal incidents survived in a simulator instead.
- lsh123 3y ago"You know nothing, Jon Snow"
- phamilton 3y ago> Not sure how flying a plane while it's essentially doing nothing is helpful to anyone. When we train engineers for oncall, we take a look at incidents they saw while shadowing. Just X days shadowing doesn't really cut it, they have to be meaningful. I see the comparison to flying pretty clearly. Chaos engineering and game days are excellent ways to get engineers more experience in a system. Does the aviation industry have something similar?
- buildsjets 3y agoCommercial pilots perform frequent recurring training in highly accurate flight simulators which can recreate just about any kind of system failure or emergency situation. It is normal in this training that they are given multiple simultaneous failures, along with confusing or unhelpful ATC instructions. Some professional pilots choose to engage in leisure activities that improve their aviation skills. Sullenberger was a glider pilot. I know a few ATPs that fly aerobatic aircraft on the weekend.
- sandspar 3y agoMany people who love flying really love flying. I once met an extremely attractive woman who was a pilot. The problem was that flying is all she ever wanted to talk about. (I should say that that's just a problem for me. If I loved flight too then I'd be head over heels.)
- c22 3y agoMaybe the whole cockpit should be disconnected after takeoff and turned into a simulator where the pilots can just practice disaster scenarios for the duration of the flight. Worst case they get a chance to ace a real disaster in the mix.
- Terr_ 3y agoProjected Headline: "According to investigators, pilots mistakenly believed their readouts and controls were still in simulation mode until seconds before the aircraft struck the mountain, killing everyone aboard." I mean, yeah, practice for when the automation breaks is good, but during the flight? That's just creating more mode-switching error cases.
- actionfromafar 3y agoThe whole cookpit lighting could be changed during simulation to remind which mode they are in. Something like Star Trek alert levels.
- hef19898 3y agoWhy not remove guard rails and seatbelts why we are at it? And have the concoles explode randomly when lightining strikes? Star Trek is a perfect example of how not to design ships, planes, systems and basically everything else.
- sandspar 3y agoMaybe the pilots can wear little simulation hats.
- sandspar 3y agoI like the idea of what'd happen if there were some runaway misaligned incentives and it ends up that long haul pilots are forced to vividly relive airline crashes for their entire 14 hour flight to Australia. Years later everyone can agree that it's beneficial ("It's always been done that way") but they can't remember why they started doing it.
- hef19898 3y agoHow to tell me you uave no idea how modern planes work without tellong me you have no idea how modern plabes work...
- sandspar 3y agoTwas brillig...
- wkat4242 3y ago> If anything airline pilots should be taught to troubleshoot a plane more and fly it less. Air France 447 is generally viewed as showing the opposite need. The disaster happened because the pilots were not at all involved in the flying process and suddenly thrown into a problem situation without that situational awareness. If anything training is already very focused on troubleshooting. And yes systems knowledge could be better. But there's many cases where there's just no time for it and that human awareness is no important. But they are kinda zoned out, similar to when you're a passenger in a car and have less geographical awareness due to not being involved.