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Your comment on the Lexus is… not in alignment with reality. I won’t argue the relative merits of hybrid and PHEV, but if it’s the ES (the only non-SUV hybrid t

Your comment on the Lexus is… not in alignment with reality. I won’t argue the relative merits of hybrid and PHEV, but if it’s the ES (the only non-SUV hybrid they make) then the statement that it won’t last 9 years is something you would need to back up. Toyota Hybrids are pretty well known to be reliable, and the ES is a particularly well designed/constructed Camry/Avalon. For the record I drive a 2024 ES after test driving basically every PHEV out there and it’s so much more solid and well put together than everything else I drove… I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. I also drove a 2001 Civic and just helped a friend replace their 2001 Civic with a 2024 Corolla Hybrid. Vastly better car, same size, and not a bad price. Comparing a full size luxury sedan with a tin can that won’t pass current safety standards isn’t exactly helping your argument.

duped 3y ago
It's a UX 250h which is classified as a compact crossover - but for all intents and purposes, it's a hatchback sedan. Looks like one, drives like one, sits on the same frame, is as big as a one, and has the cargo capacity of a hatchback to boot. I get 35 mpg in it. Great car, would highly recommend. I think if nothing in the world changed for the next ten years, it would hold up fine. But I forsee other issues that older sedans won't run into, especially with the inevitable number of repairs and availability of parts for the electronics. The point is that if you just look at total carbon emissions, modern EVs and hybrids aren't better than old ICE sedans. A big part of the reason is weight, due to safety and creature comforts. What I'm lamenting is that hybrids don't do that much better than ICEs from 20 years ago when it comes to fuel economy - except for some standouts like the Prius. Meanwhile, most manufacturers are just selling hybrid SUVs and crossovers, or EVs the size of a whale. Some of these cars they're selling have to be hybrids because of EPA mileage requirements, and they're going to struggle to get to where the EPA wants them (which is why Biden rolled back the pace of fuel economy standard changes just a few weeks ago - the manufacturers won't keep up).

duped 3y ago

It's a UX 250h which is classified as a compact crossover - but for all intents and purposes, it's a hatchback sedan. Looks like one, drives like one, sits on the same frame, is as big as a one, and has the cargo capacity of a hatchback to boot. I get 35 mpg in it. Great car, would highly recommend. I think if nothing in the world changed for the next ten years, it would hold up fine. But I forsee other issues that older sedans won't run into, especially with the inevitable number of repairs and availability of parts for the electronics. The point is that if you just look at total carbon emissions, modern EVs and hybrids aren't better than old ICE sedans. A big part of the reason is weight, due to safety and creature comforts. What I'm lamenting is that hybrids don't do that much better than ICEs from 20 years ago when it comes to fuel economy - except for some standouts like the Prius. Meanwhile, most manufacturers are just selling hybrid SUVs and crossovers, or EVs the size of a whale. Some of these cars they're selling have to be hybrids because of EPA mileage requirements, and they're going to struggle to get to where the EPA wants them (which is why Biden rolled back the pace of fuel economy standard changes just a few weeks ago - the manufacturers won't keep up).