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I would love to be able to chat with Siri, just like one can with ChatGPT, Gemini, Ollama, etc. It would be nice if Siri had a very streamlined LLM built-in to

I would love to be able to chat with Siri, just like one can with ChatGPT, Gemini, Ollama, etc. It would be nice if Siri had a very streamlined LLM built-in to be used for that, and/or more with the ability to "offload" to a remote server if no local answer is found (that last behind a user's setting).

olliej 3y ago
I just never use Siri, every time I use it I feel like I still have to use very stilted and clearly enunciated speech, even though the speech transcription for voicemail can apparently deal with a drunk pilot flying at altitude with the windows open. That and it still seems to be very command driven and have no contextual link between sequential statements means that if it gives you a useless response you can’t give it a further instruction to refine the answer. Maybe that particular issue would be improved by LLMs or something, but I literally never want an LLM to be the source of an answer.
- m_fayer 3y ago
  After a day of heavy gpt interaction it’s jarring to tell Siri to turn on “private mode” and be met with a head-scratchy “I can’t do that.” “Turn on do not disturb” worked fine. Apple tried to give Siri a humane sound but the system is rigid and dumb. Given what we know is possible these days, and the vibe Apple likes to project, this situation truly grates.
  - Tagbert 3y ago
    Siri is 10 years old, and even then, the tech was probably not cutting edge. Apple bought much of Siri from another company and we have heard that they ended up having to do a lot of hand coded cases and that it was so complicated that they stuggled to make any changes. It was clearly a dead end, but until recently there was not a lot of demand for more. Alex and Google were a little bit ahead but neither one of those is an honor student either. I have to confess when you said to turn on "private mode" I wasn't sure what you meant. The browser's private window came to mind until you said "do not disturb".
    - petre 3y ago
      It could be useful in the car but it's too dumb without a LLM behind it.
    - m_fayer 3y ago
      My point was that “private mode” was indeed a mistake on my part, I would just expect a modern llm-driven system to react in some way that’s more productive than “I can’t do that”. Almost anything would be better.

olliej 3y ago

I just never use Siri, every time I use it I feel like I still have to use very stilted and clearly enunciated speech, even though the speech transcription for voicemail can apparently deal with a drunk pilot flying at altitude with the windows open. That and it still seems to be very command driven and have no contextual link between sequential statements means that if it gives you a useless response you can’t give it a further instruction to refine the answer. Maybe that particular issue would be improved by LLMs or something, but I literally never want an LLM to be the source of an answer.

m_fayer 3y ago
After a day of heavy gpt interaction it’s jarring to tell Siri to turn on “private mode” and be met with a head-scratchy “I can’t do that.” “Turn on do not disturb” worked fine. Apple tried to give Siri a humane sound but the system is rigid and dumb. Given what we know is possible these days, and the vibe Apple likes to project, this situation truly grates.
- Tagbert 3y ago
  Siri is 10 years old, and even then, the tech was probably not cutting edge. Apple bought much of Siri from another company and we have heard that they ended up having to do a lot of hand coded cases and that it was so complicated that they stuggled to make any changes. It was clearly a dead end, but until recently there was not a lot of demand for more. Alex and Google were a little bit ahead but neither one of those is an honor student either. I have to confess when you said to turn on "private mode" I wasn't sure what you meant. The browser's private window came to mind until you said "do not disturb".
  - petre 3y ago
    It could be useful in the car but it's too dumb without a LLM behind it.
  - m_fayer 3y ago
    My point was that “private mode” was indeed a mistake on my part, I would just expect a modern llm-driven system to react in some way that’s more productive than “I can’t do that”. Almost anything would be better.