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> I strongly suspect what these organisers couldn't find were women who would say the things they wanted. Agreed. Plus you don't have to pay sockpuppets. He w

> I strongly suspect what these organisers couldn't find were women who would say the things they wanted. Agreed. Plus you don't have to pay sockpuppets. He was making them "cancel" their talk, but he had then met the "women quota" so all good. Honestly it's the affirmative action culture that led to this. People will take advantage of things like that. Like a man that gets last in weight lifting amongst their male peers, "transitions", then blows out the #1 spot amongst women.

ambichook 3y ago
"yes i turned my life upside down, opened myself up to discrimination, and took a cocktail of drugs that will actively make me dysphoric and also cause my muscles to atrophy, just so i can beat women in sport, despite the fact that the hormones i have been on for the last year have actually normalised my performance with women" do people seriously think people transition to win at sports?
- theultdev 3y ago
  Sweet summer child. See Laurel Hubbard... But yes, it's an incredibly petty thing to do, hard to imagine, similar to creating fake women speakers. And no, hormone therapy does not "normalize" you with women. Your bone structure and many other factors are at play. Hormone therapy doesn't magically reverse these things. You can literally look at the guy and see the difference between the women he's taking advantage of.
  - ambichook 3y ago
    a trans woman who had been on HRT for 5 years managed to qualify for and come second in an event, and later won some others, yes that is most certainly evidence that she had an unfair advantage /s she was also in the ballpark with the other competitors, not the sort of far and away difference that you make it out to be.
    - lllI 3y ago
      Not true, look at this graph comparing Hubbard's lifts at the World Masters to male and female competitors: https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JrzQoA6fWKtYdm8auCMj6RKil0Yg8VufYJQt0dtZUus.jpg https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JrzQoA6fWKtYdm8auCMj6RKil0Y... He sits squarely within the male range and is a huge outlier from the women competitors.
- lllI 3y ago
  Doesn't matter what the original motivation is. Women's sports are not a venue for making males feel better about themselves, they're to celebrate female excellence and female competition.

ambichook 3y ago

"yes i turned my life upside down, opened myself up to discrimination, and took a cocktail of drugs that will actively make me dysphoric and also cause my muscles to atrophy, just so i can beat women in sport, despite the fact that the hormones i have been on for the last year have actually normalised my performance with women" do people seriously think people transition to win at sports?

theultdev 3y ago
Sweet summer child. See Laurel Hubbard... But yes, it's an incredibly petty thing to do, hard to imagine, similar to creating fake women speakers. And no, hormone therapy does not "normalize" you with women. Your bone structure and many other factors are at play. Hormone therapy doesn't magically reverse these things. You can literally look at the guy and see the difference between the women he's taking advantage of.
- ambichook 3y ago
  a trans woman who had been on HRT for 5 years managed to qualify for and come second in an event, and later won some others, yes that is most certainly evidence that she had an unfair advantage /s she was also in the ballpark with the other competitors, not the sort of far and away difference that you make it out to be.
  - lllI 3y ago
    Not true, look at this graph comparing Hubbard's lifts at the World Masters to male and female competitors: https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JrzQoA6fWKtYdm8auCMj6RKil0Yg8VufYJQt0dtZUus.jpg https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JrzQoA6fWKtYdm8auCMj6RKil0Y... He sits squarely within the male range and is a huge outlier from the women competitors.
lllI 3y ago
Doesn't matter what the original motivation is. Women's sports are not a venue for making males feel better about themselves, they're to celebrate female excellence and female competition.