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> The alternatives that most here on HN are pushing for would ultimately lead to a walled garden no longer being an option for consumers at all. I think the sta

> The alternatives that most here on HN are pushing for would ultimately lead to a walled garden no longer being an option for consumers at all. I think the status quo is preferable: consumers who don't want to participate in the walled garden can choose to not buy devices that are explicitly sold as being part of said garden. Why do apple fans always come up with bizarre fantasies like this? This isn't a problem for Android today, and it won't be a problem for mainstream apps when apple is finally forced to open up thanks to the EU. More than 99% of the users will never install anything other than from the official Play store. But they are allowed to without Big Daddy Apple telling them "No". And that's what matters.

lolinder 3y ago
Did you miss my first comment where I said I'm an Android and F-Droid user? It's not like I don't know how Android works. The only Apple device I use is my work-issued MacBook. The difference between Android and iOS is that Apple actually has rules that are strict enough to motivate the likes of Facebook to actively encourage people to side load if given the chance. I'm not comfortable looking at Android as a precedent, because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store, so the path of least resistance is acceptable to basically everyone. I do not believe the same would be true of Apple's store.
- beeboobaa 3y ago
  > because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store Not really. They are pretty strict, actually. > The difference between Android and iOS is that Apple actually has rules that are strict enough to motivate the likes of Facebook to actively encourage people to side load if given the chance I doubt it. Especially after Apple will have submitted to the rest of the DMA.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store And Apple is known for being just so diligent with their App Store reviews, huh? https://www.pcmag.com/news/beware-theres-a-fake-lastpass-app-on-apples-app-store https://www.pcmag.com/news/beware-theres-a-fake-lastpass-app...

lolinder 3y ago

Did you miss my first comment where I said I'm an Android and F-Droid user? It's not like I don't know how Android works. The only Apple device I use is my work-issued MacBook. The difference between Android and iOS is that Apple actually has rules that are strict enough to motivate the likes of Facebook to actively encourage people to side load if given the chance. I'm not comfortable looking at Android as a precedent, because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store, so the path of least resistance is acceptable to basically everyone. I do not believe the same would be true of Apple's store.

beeboobaa 3y ago
> because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store Not really. They are pretty strict, actually. > The difference between Android and iOS is that Apple actually has rules that are strict enough to motivate the likes of Facebook to actively encourage people to side load if given the chance I doubt it. Especially after Apple will have submitted to the rest of the DMA.
smoldesu 3y ago
> because Google is extremely lax with what kinds of things they allow on the Play Store And Apple is known for being just so diligent with their App Store reviews, huh? https://www.pcmag.com/news/beware-theres-a-fake-lastpass-app-on-apples-app-store https://www.pcmag.com/news/beware-theres-a-fake-lastpass-app...