4 ms·

Currently Apple wants to charge core technology fee per install (irrespective of App Store or not, after first 1 million install) and App Store commission of 14

Currently Apple wants to charge core technology fee per install (irrespective of App Store or not, after first 1 million install) and App Store commission of 14.1666% of total revenue. This seems egregious because it is charging it on customer transaction and ultimately it is coming out of customer pockets when they have already paid Apple for the hardware. Instead, Apple should have disaggregated their fees. IMO, they can charge the following fees fairly: 1. Developer Ecosystem Tools – compilers, libraries, entitlements – can be one time or annual fees, not coupled with number of installs or revenue. (mandatory, entitlement fees could be per entitlement purchased by the app). 2. App Store registration fees – can be one time or annual fees, not coupled with number of installs or revenue. (optional – can choose to not use App Store) 2.1 App Store technical fees for app binary release certification – charged per app release/update. 2.2 App Store bandwidth fees – per app install delivered via App Store – charged per total bytes delivered. 2.3 App Store in-app purchase payment fees – percent of payment processed (currently 0.25%). 2.4 App Store ads fees – developers can choose to pay for Apple Ads for boosted discovery of their app within App Store. They could provide free quotas for each of the above. That way free apps can still exist. Apple can also provide iOS level capability via System Preferences or managed device profiles to lock App stores (or alternate app stores). IMHO, this is likely the path that would be well-received and will be followed by alternate app stores as well.

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
The problem with this plan is the "entitlement fee". The DMA mandates that OS API access be offered free of charge.
- zigzag312 3y ago
  Platforms are very intertwined, where third party products increase the value of the platform far beyond the base value of the platform (i.e. the value created only by the creator of the platform). A feedback loop is created as bigger platform attracts more third party products, which in turn make the platform even bigger. At some point it becomes impossible for new competition to enter the market. IMO laws should treat platforms as special in order to promote creation of environments with a healthy amount of competition. Laws requiring openness of platforms seem to be one way to do it.
pjc50 3y ago
That only "works" for the DMA if there's a clear path through those where there's actually a market - i.e. it's possible to ship an app onto iOS devices without having to go through the fee/approval stage. > 2.1 App Store technical fees for app binary release certification – charged per app release/update. In particular, this is something that developers actively don't want and would pay money to not do. > developers can choose to pay for Apple Ads for boosted discovery of their app within App Store Suspect this ruins the app store for everyone, in the way that boosted discovery ruined Twitter/X.
- NekkoDroid 3y ago
  > Suspect this ruins the app store for everyone, in the way that boosted discovery ruined Twitter/X. Well, that is more because every bot and their toaster is able to pay a 8$/month fee to have top visibility, especially when it partitally gets reimbursed due to the payouts.

EMIRELADERO 3y ago

The problem with this plan is the "entitlement fee". The DMA mandates that OS API access be offered free of charge.

zigzag312 3y ago
Platforms are very intertwined, where third party products increase the value of the platform far beyond the base value of the platform (i.e. the value created only by the creator of the platform). A feedback loop is created as bigger platform attracts more third party products, which in turn make the platform even bigger. At some point it becomes impossible for new competition to enter the market. IMO laws should treat platforms as special in order to promote creation of environments with a healthy amount of competition. Laws requiring openness of platforms seem to be one way to do it.

pjc50 3y ago

That only "works" for the DMA if there's a clear path through those where there's actually a market - i.e. it's possible to ship an app onto iOS devices without having to go through the fee/approval stage. > 2.1 App Store technical fees for app binary release certification – charged per app release/update. In particular, this is something that developers actively don't want and would pay money to not do. > developers can choose to pay for Apple Ads for boosted discovery of their app within App Store Suspect this ruins the app store for everyone, in the way that boosted discovery ruined Twitter/X.

NekkoDroid 3y ago
> Suspect this ruins the app store for everyone, in the way that boosted discovery ruined Twitter/X. Well, that is more because every bot and their toaster is able to pay a 8$/month fee to have top visibility, especially when it partitally gets reimbursed due to the payouts.