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What's the point of defending a multi-trillion-dollar company? Apple is abusing its market position. Let's not pretend that they are strapping for money because

by lopis 3y ago

What's the point of defending a multi-trillion-dollar company? Apple is abusing its market position. Let's not pretend that they are strapping for money because getting a working phone platform is expensive. Apple doesn't provide 30% of the value of a company to deserve 30% of their profit. If they wanted to make it fair, they would charge a fair usage cost of the app store. Charge for hosting apps, delivering updates, appearing in featured apps, etc. Heck, companies already spend money on marketing, let them opt-out from appearing in search results if they want.

judge2020 3y ago
The fee is somewhat for paying apple to make and maintain the APIs they put into iOS, including perpetual access to all future APIs. Not Apple’s fault if Spotify then refuses to e.g. integrate with the HomePod for years after Apple made the APIs to do so.
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  Apple makes these APIs because it makes the iPhone a better product so customers buy it!
shuckles 3y ago
So you’re of the position that when two companies are in a dispute, one should primarily favor the one with smaller market capitalization? Are you familiar with patent trolls?
Aloisius 3y ago
> Apple doesn't provide 30% of the value of a company to deserve 30% of their profit. They're not being fined for the percentage they take are they? Rather it seems they are being fined for banning app makers from letting users buy subscriptions outside the app store. Arguably Apple could still create licensing terms that take a percentage of revenue that happens outside the app store. The only odd bit about Apple is they're structured it around a transaction fee on the App Store rather than royalties for IP, which is more traditional. If they asked for royalties for the use of Apple SDKs, Apple branding, etc. instead, then it looks just like just another commercial vendor.

by lopis 3y ago

judge2020 3y ago

The fee is somewhat for paying apple to make and maintain the APIs they put into iOS, including perpetual access to all future APIs. Not Apple’s fault if Spotify then refuses to e.g. integrate with the HomePod for years after Apple made the APIs to do so.

madeofpalk 3y ago
Apple makes these APIs because it makes the iPhone a better product so customers buy it!

shuckles 3y ago

So you’re of the position that when two companies are in a dispute, one should primarily favor the one with smaller market capitalization? Are you familiar with patent trolls?

Aloisius 3y ago

> Apple doesn't provide 30% of the value of a company to deserve 30% of their profit. They're not being fined for the percentage they take are they? Rather it seems they are being fined for banning app makers from letting users buy subscriptions outside the app store. Arguably Apple could still create licensing terms that take a percentage of revenue that happens outside the app store. The only odd bit about Apple is they're structured it around a transaction fee on the App Store rather than royalties for IP, which is more traditional. If they asked for royalties for the use of Apple SDKs, Apple branding, etc. instead, then it looks just like just another commercial vendor.