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Strange: I submitted this more than 24 hours ago and it still says so on my list of submissions here: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=p4bl0 https://ne

by p4bl0 3y ago

Strange: I submitted this more than 24 hours ago and it still says so on my list of submissions here: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=p4bl0 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=p4bl0 But it's the same submission as this one which says it was submitted by me 4 hours ago. I've been contacted a few times by HN moderation and was asked to re-submit some interesting link that didn't get traction on the first try, but it's the first time that I see a link be re-submitted on my behalf. Is that common on HN now? Anyway, concerning Velato, I stumbled on it yesterday. I find this kind of esoteric languages (like Piet [1]) quite fun, and thought that others here may enjoy it! [1] https://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html https://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html

Levitating 3y ago
How did you stumble on it?
- p4bl0 3y ago
  I'm not really sure because it was one of the tab opened in my mobile browser. My best guess would be that I originally saw this link in a post on Mastodon.
  - bmacho 3y ago
    This make me wonder why none of the most popular browsers keep browsing history. At least the track where I surfed
xpointer 3y ago
It's funny you link to Piet; I began Velato by asking what would Piet be as music. Some programs are instantly recognizable as Piet while others are hardly recognizable as such; the language has its own aesthetic and yet programmers bring their own style to its set of visual constraints, all through fairly basic rules. In Velato, all notes are read in relation to a root note that can change between commands, even in the middle of a single chord. That was meant to allow for more choice in how a programmer constructs a piece of music. Years later I interviewed David Morgan-Mar about Piet and his other languages https://esoteric.codes/blog/david-morgan-mar https://esoteric.codes/blog/david-morgan-mar and wrote about the concept of multicoding, where a single text has readings in two systems that shape each other (an image and code, music and code etc) https://esoteric.codes/blog/chef-multicoding-esolang-aesthetics https://esoteric.codes/blog/chef-multicoding-esolang-aesthet...
dang 3y ago
> I've been contacted a few times by HN moderation and was asked to re-submit some interesting link that didn't get traction on the first try, but it's the first time that I see a link be re-submitted on my behalf. Is that common on HN now? Not resubmitted but re-upped. That is, we rolled back the clock on it and added some points so that it would get a placement on HN's front page. You can see the stories that get picked this way here: https://news.ycombinator.com/pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, and the system is described at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 and the links back from there. When a post is older, we email an invite link (as you described) but when it's only a day or two old, we re-up the current submission. That's what happened in the present case. The timestamp munging is an artifact of this re-upping system (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20timestamps%20re-up&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Thanks for posting great submissions to Hacker News! Btw, if anyone sees a great submission that could use a re-up or a repost, please let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. (It's best when the article isn't your own stuff, but rather something that you just think is interesting.)

by p4bl0 3y ago

Levitating 3y ago

How did you stumble on it?

p4bl0 3y ago
I'm not really sure because it was one of the tab opened in my mobile browser. My best guess would be that I originally saw this link in a post on Mastodon.
- bmacho 3y ago
  This make me wonder why none of the most popular browsers keep browsing history. At least the track where I surfed

xpointer 3y ago

It's funny you link to Piet; I began Velato by asking what would Piet be as music. Some programs are instantly recognizable as Piet while others are hardly recognizable as such; the language has its own aesthetic and yet programmers bring their own style to its set of visual constraints, all through fairly basic rules. In Velato, all notes are read in relation to a root note that can change between commands, even in the middle of a single chord. That was meant to allow for more choice in how a programmer constructs a piece of music. Years later I interviewed David Morgan-Mar about Piet and his other languages https://esoteric.codes/blog/david-morgan-mar https://esoteric.codes/blog/david-morgan-mar and wrote about the concept of multicoding, where a single text has readings in two systems that shape each other (an image and code, music and code etc) https://esoteric.codes/blog/chef-multicoding-esolang-aesthetics https://esoteric.codes/blog/chef-multicoding-esolang-aesthet...

dang 3y ago

> I've been contacted a few times by HN moderation and was asked to re-submit some interesting link that didn't get traction on the first try, but it's the first time that I see a link be re-submitted on my behalf. Is that common on HN now? Not resubmitted but re-upped. That is, we rolled back the clock on it and added some points so that it would get a placement on HN's front page. You can see the stories that get picked this way here: https://news.ycombinator.com/pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, and the system is described at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998309 and the links back from there. When a post is older, we email an invite link (as you described) but when it's only a day or two old, we re-up the current submission. That's what happened in the present case. The timestamp munging is an artifact of this re-upping system (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20timestamps%20re-up&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Thanks for posting great submissions to Hacker News! Btw, if anyone sees a great submission that could use a re-up or a repost, please let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. (It's best when the article isn't your own stuff, but rather something that you just think is interesting.)