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> The presence of my Chinese aunties online is pretty terrifying Yeah that was the line that puzzled me. I see your point better now. Thanks for that. Indeed,

> The presence of my Chinese aunties online is pretty terrifying Yeah that was the line that puzzled me. I see your point better now. Thanks for that. Indeed, some of the things raised from that PDF maybe seem "silly" to me too. But then that's the point. "To me". What I'm championing here is diversity of worldviews. To parody my own (male) mind I might say "Ah, cmon, threats to an actual gas pipeline are more 'important' than feeling gaslighted online". But then, maybe I'd miss that the cumulative effect on 100 million people not feeling safe to participate online is actually a massive blow to the vibrancy of national life and democracy. With this hybrid-vigour (Rebel Ideas [0]) kind of thinking, I want to hear all views on what security means. So far I've found that it's the women in the room who seem way ahead in moving from the traditional military metaphor, of perimeters and offence, and we're actually seeing that percolating through to mainstream thinking that is slowly focusing more on "Trust" and relational cybersecurity, as with the new NIST report this week. [0] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52326253-rebel-ideas https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52326253-rebel-ideas

defrost 3y ago
A classic early example of "Chinese aunties" online - eyes that watch everything and miss nothing would be the women of Bletchley Park during WWII. Every known move of the Germans logged, every reported move was logged, every transmission (encyrpted or not, cracked or not) was logged. Cross references meta data filing was created on the fly to summarise and condences the known knowns, known unknowns, etc. It was a master class in traffic analysis .. and with it comes the notion that to make it (in world affairs) you need to "fake it" enough that when you actually do something you have the traffic to hide behind. I would also add that the largest group of sharp analytical minds that I've lost track off from my years in mathematics has been women ... and for the most part they've not been gravitating to kitchens they've been heading towards the five eyes groups, naval signal intelligence, etc - complex, security related, not overly well paid roles that provide national stability.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  Appearances are important. But so is substance. I don't hang out with girls that are all fur coat and no knickers, as we say round here :) Regarding BP, as a Brit I'd love to do an episode [0] on Mavis Batey sometime. Have you visited? One of the surprising facts is about the extraordinary physical working conditions in the huts... it's summer, the roofs are painted in dark green tar and camouflage, the machines are kicking out tens of kilowatts... [0] https://cybershow.uk https://cybershow.uk
  - defrost 3y ago
    I've not visited BP, I've been in the vicinity but otherwise engaged and don't live in the UK. I did interview Bill Tutte in Canada in the 1980s when I was passing through though. I was getting a lot of referrals from my mentors when I was doing some work on the early Cayley, now Magma system in Australia.

defrost 3y ago

A classic early example of "Chinese aunties" online - eyes that watch everything and miss nothing would be the women of Bletchley Park during WWII. Every known move of the Germans logged, every reported move was logged, every transmission (encyrpted or not, cracked or not) was logged. Cross references meta data filing was created on the fly to summarise and condences the known knowns, known unknowns, etc. It was a master class in traffic analysis .. and with it comes the notion that to make it (in world affairs) you need to "fake it" enough that when you actually do something you have the traffic to hide behind. I would also add that the largest group of sharp analytical minds that I've lost track off from my years in mathematics has been women ... and for the most part they've not been gravitating to kitchens they've been heading towards the five eyes groups, naval signal intelligence, etc - complex, security related, not overly well paid roles that provide national stability.

nonrandomstring 3y ago
Appearances are important. But so is substance. I don't hang out with girls that are all fur coat and no knickers, as we say round here :) Regarding BP, as a Brit I'd love to do an episode [0] on Mavis Batey sometime. Have you visited? One of the surprising facts is about the extraordinary physical working conditions in the huts... it's summer, the roofs are painted in dark green tar and camouflage, the machines are kicking out tens of kilowatts... [0] https://cybershow.uk https://cybershow.uk
- defrost 3y ago
  I've not visited BP, I've been in the vicinity but otherwise engaged and don't live in the UK. I did interview Bill Tutte in Canada in the 1980s when I was passing through though. I was getting a lot of referrals from my mentors when I was doing some work on the early Cayley, now Magma system in Australia.