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Great news. Finally big tech is no longer untouchable. I hope there will be repercussions for the App Store situation [1] too. [1] https://www.reuters.com/tech

by mikae1 3y ago

Great news. Finally big tech is no longer untouchable. I hope there will be repercussions for the App Store situation [1] too. [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-faces-strong-action-if-app-store-changes-fall-short-eus-breton-says-2024-01-26/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-faces-strong-action...

vasco 3y ago
I agree with the sentiment but this is Big Tech fighting with Big Tech, or rather Big Tech / Music Rights Mafia fighting Big(ger) Tech. Small publishers are just happy bystanders in this case. Would've been great if regulators had gotten smart on their own but I'm also happy to take it like this I guess.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
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- GardenLetter27 3y ago
  But the relevant part here is the App Store. Giving users more freedom to get their apps without requiring Apple's authorisation is a good thing. It helps startups and stops Apple from abusing the App Store monopoly to funnel users to Apple Music over competitors, etc. The Big 3 labels don't enforce exclusivity at all (although UMG has threatened it a few times) - so you can get the same library on Apple Music, Deezer, Youtube Music, Spotify, Tidal, Amazon Music, etc. so even though it sucks they have a monopoly on almost all popular music, at least there isn't a monopoly in distribution like the App Store.
- mikae1 3y ago
  The EU is fighting big tech on multiple fronts. My point was that this fine (and other fines) might show these companies what happens if they keep ignoring lawmakers.
  - GardenLetter27 3y ago
    I think the DMA (and this case) is the most important one. Right now Apple directly controls how most people interact with all their software and the Internet. Although I wish the EU would take the money from these fines and put it straight into developing European competition like the FairPhone, or new projects building on the PinePhone Pro or Purism work, etc. - competition is the only real threat. I dislike some of the EU policies like the Cybersecurity Act and AI act (and parts of the DSA), but the DMA has been great.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      > I wish the EU would take the money from these fines and put it straight into developing European competition That would be nice, but currently we have much bigger social issues on the horizon that need funding than FOSS projects, like energy, the environment, the health system, the migration crisis, local defense spending, and the war next door out of which the EU will pay half of Ukraine's national deficit. I think those are more important ATM than having a nicer Fairphone.
mikae1 3y ago
“Apple’s New Fees Will Kill Free Apps”[1] is worth a watch too. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dbNzFD0zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dbNzFD0zM
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by mikae1 3y ago

vasco 3y ago

I agree with the sentiment but this is Big Tech fighting with Big Tech, or rather Big Tech / Music Rights Mafia fighting Big(ger) Tech. Small publishers are just happy bystanders in this case. Would've been great if regulators had gotten smart on their own but I'm also happy to take it like this I guess.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
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GardenLetter27 3y ago
But the relevant part here is the App Store. Giving users more freedom to get their apps without requiring Apple's authorisation is a good thing. It helps startups and stops Apple from abusing the App Store monopoly to funnel users to Apple Music over competitors, etc. The Big 3 labels don't enforce exclusivity at all (although UMG has threatened it a few times) - so you can get the same library on Apple Music, Deezer, Youtube Music, Spotify, Tidal, Amazon Music, etc. so even though it sucks they have a monopoly on almost all popular music, at least there isn't a monopoly in distribution like the App Store.
mikae1 3y ago
The EU is fighting big tech on multiple fronts. My point was that this fine (and other fines) might show these companies what happens if they keep ignoring lawmakers.
- GardenLetter27 3y ago
  I think the DMA (and this case) is the most important one. Right now Apple directly controls how most people interact with all their software and the Internet. Although I wish the EU would take the money from these fines and put it straight into developing European competition like the FairPhone, or new projects building on the PinePhone Pro or Purism work, etc. - competition is the only real threat. I dislike some of the EU policies like the Cybersecurity Act and AI act (and parts of the DSA), but the DMA has been great.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    > I wish the EU would take the money from these fines and put it straight into developing European competition That would be nice, but currently we have much bigger social issues on the horizon that need funding than FOSS projects, like energy, the environment, the health system, the migration crisis, local defense spending, and the war next door out of which the EU will pay half of Ukraine's national deficit. I think those are more important ATM than having a nicer Fairphone.

mikae1 3y ago

“Apple’s New Fees Will Kill Free Apps”[1] is worth a watch too. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dbNzFD0zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dbNzFD0zM

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